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Post by panditha676 on Nov 20, 2011 22:50:42 GMT -8
Anyone have any more info on when this is actually coming out? And any details on the limited edition of 50?
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Post by saL on Nov 21, 2011 0:17:55 GMT -8
from the Taschen Fall 2011 catalog... a limited collector's edition of 1,000 copies, signed and numbered in a clamshell box. $1000. There is also an Art Edition of 50 copies that comes with an artwork... Heaven only knows what that one will go for! I understand it's being released at Miami Art Basel.  hope that helps  |
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Post by haven on Nov 21, 2011 6:15:43 GMT -8
Damn, and I thought the Berens book was expensive.
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Post by saL on Nov 21, 2011 6:32:59 GMT -8
Damn, and I thought the Berens book was expensive. Yup, not that expensive if you compare it to this..  Btw, quoted post is actually from Berens book thread.. |
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Post by arezee on Nov 21, 2011 9:01:11 GMT -8
The book is mentioned in the new juxtapoz article about Mark. It does say that there will be a trade edition released at a later date. Probably only after all those expensive collectors editions are sold.
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Post by panditha676 on Nov 24, 2011 11:24:37 GMT -8
thanks it does! dayum! i thought the 1000 edition would be at least half that but DAAAYM! By artwork i wonder if they mean original or giclee. well thats another edition that will be up for a while much like the snow yak show one.
So it wont be released on the website?
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Post by oldfartatplay on Nov 24, 2011 15:30:36 GMT -8
I think it's silly to sell a book for $1K. Limited edition of 1000 copies? Come on Mr Ryden, that's a million bucks for the run! It's a damn picture book man, granted it's got some nice pictures but your alienating your fan base. I think I'm not such a fan anymore.
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Post by svenman on Nov 24, 2011 15:33:40 GMT -8
ofap, it's not just silly - it's ridiculous.
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Post by oldfartatplay on Nov 24, 2011 15:36:33 GMT -8
ofap, it's not just silly - it's ridiculous. preposterous! More big eyed girls dressed in meat with Lincoln and symbols. I liked it for 10 years or so. |
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Post by commandax on Nov 24, 2011 16:02:32 GMT -8
The pricing of Ryden's limited Pinxit edition is completely in line with Taschen's extensive line of collector's editions, as you can see here. These editions have proven to hold their value over Taschen's 30-year history as a publisher — wealthy book collectors line up for their release, and with this one coming out at Miami Basel, I doubt it will be an exception. The collector's edition is huge at 15x20 inches and 366 pages, bound in calfskin in a clamshell box, with more than a dozen foldouts that open to 60 inches across. Anyway, per Taschen's usual system, a more modestly sized trade edition will come out next year so everyone can enjoy it. For anyone who's interested in the December 1st release, here are complete details from Taschen on the Collector's Edition and Art Edition. |
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Post by oldfartatplay on Nov 24, 2011 16:23:26 GMT -8
The pricing of Ryden's limited Pinxit edition is completely in line with Taschen's extensive line of collector's editions, as you can see here. These editions have proven to hold their value over Taschen's 30-year history as a publisher — wealthy book collectors line up for their release, and with this one coming out at Miami Basel, I doubt it will be an exception. The collector's edition is huge at 15x20 inches and 366 pages, bound in calfskin in a clamshell box, with more than a dozen foldouts that open to 60 inches across. Anyway, per Taschen's usual system, a more modestly sized trade edition will come out next year so everyone can enjoy it. For anyone who's interested in the December 1st release, here are complete details from Taschen on the Collector's Edition and Art Edition. Thanks for the info. I'm thinking well, that's good for Taschen, wealthy book collectors and Ryden but what about the calfs? |
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Post by treeoflife on Nov 24, 2011 18:41:32 GMT -8
That print looks pretty nice. I'm glad for Ryden's success and appreciate his pricing toward the serious collector, but I'm disappointed to see the absurdity in the amount the proofs produced of it.
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Post by panditha676 on Nov 24, 2011 19:12:24 GMT -8
I think it's silly to sell a book for $1K. Limited edition of 1000 copies? Come on Mr Ryden, that's a million bucks for the run! It's a damn picture book man, granted it's got some nice pictures but your alienating your fan base. I think I'm not such a fan anymore. I was thinking the same thing. Plus I found out more about the art edition at the Taschn website. Its actually $6000 and the artwork is a blasted silk screen not an original way to over priced for what it is! www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/art/all/06345/facts.mark_ryden_pinxit_art_edition.htm really just really?! for $6k I can get a legit original Ryden off of ebay or even a small drawing at one of his shows or a down payment on one. |
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Post by panditha676 on Nov 24, 2011 19:15:47 GMT -8
That print looks pretty nice. I'm glad for Ryden's success and appreciate his pricing toward the serious collector, but I'm disappointed to see the absurdity in the amount the proofs produced of it. Many of his collectors such as myself are serious collectors, ones who cannot make the list of his ever growing waiting list of originals at decent prices, who have to go third market to find originals that we dont know are real or not because its hard to get a hold of him. So making this a bit more acessible would be a bit more helpful for us. Though he is a very cool and down to earth person in person, and has helped out many of his fans, but this is a wee bit too much. |
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Post by svenman on Nov 25, 2011 0:23:11 GMT -8
The pricing of Ryden's limited Pinxit edition is completely in line with Taschen's extensive line of collector's editions, as you can see here. These editions have proven to hold their value over Taschen's 30-year history as a publisher — wealthy book collectors line up for their release, and with this one coming out at Miami Basel, I doubt it will be an exception. The collector's edition is huge at 15x20 inches and 366 pages, bound in calfskin in a clamshell box, with more than a dozen foldouts that open to 60 inches across. Anyway, per Taschen's usual system, a more modestly sized trade edition will come out next year so everyone can enjoy it. For anyone who's interested in the December 1st release, here are complete details from Taschen on the Collector's Edition and Art Edition. Thanks for the info. I'm thinking well, that's good for Taschen, wealthy book collectors and Ryden but what about the calfs? And the clams... 1k for a book 6k for a book and print is way way way overpriced however you try and paint it. I note that a lot of those book sets are not sold out, even for those artists much more established in the 'real' art world than ryden. |
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Post by panditha676 on Nov 25, 2011 19:25:18 GMT -8
Thanks for the info. I'm thinking well, that's good for Taschen, wealthy book collectors and Ryden but what about the calfs? And the clams... 1k for a book 6k for a book and print is way way way overpriced however you try and paint it. I note that a lot of those book sets are not sold out, even for those artists much more established in the 'real' art world than ryden. well put Svenman |
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Post by grotesqueanimal on Nov 26, 2011 13:05:34 GMT -8
Just chiming in with this discussion as a Mark Ryden fan who has been collecting his stuff since 2002/2003 and has paid a lot of silly prices for some of his print and book editions in the past (I only own a small portion of his catalogue but I follow all releases closely). For a (very long) second I seriously considered getting the Art Edition for $6000 (it is quoted at the European Taschen store for €4000, which is way better than the current conversion rate), but...no, it IS a ridiculous price. The pricing of Ryden's limited Pinxit edition is completely in line with Taschen's extensive line of collector's editions, as you can see here. These editions have proven to hold their value over Taschen's 30-year history as a publisher — wealthy book collectors line up for their release, and with this one coming out at Miami Basel, I doubt it will be an exception. Yes, the pricing of both editions might be in line with Taschen's catalogue of collector's editions, but it is certainly not in line with Ryden's back catalogue of limited book editions. They were editions of 500 (Anima Mundi, Blood and Tree Show) or 250 (Fushigi Circus, Sweet Wishes, Snow Yak) and all came with a signed ltd. print (with the exception of Tree Show), bookmarks and sometimes other nifty stuff, with a lot of attention to detail, packaged in clamshell boxes etc. If my memory serves me right, the most expensive one was the Blood book priced at $500. In my opinion the Collector's Edition - in an edition of 1000, plus a whopping 320 (!) artist's proofs which makes it not-so-rare in my book - priced at 1K should come with a signed ltd. print, the Art Edition for 6k with a signed ltd. print plus a tiny original (maybe a drawing, a mini-study or something), or something hand-embellished, in any case something that took him more time than it takes to proof a print and make three signatures. The collector's edition is huge at 15x20 inches and 366 pages, bound in calfskin in a clamshell box, with more than a dozen foldouts that open to 60 inches across. Anyway, per Taschen's usual system, a more modestly sized trade edition will come out next year so everyone can enjoy it. Just the size does not justify the prize for me. I'll definitely wait for the normal trade edition, this one will be nice too, and it will be a book that you can actually flip through. I just imagine spilling coffee on a 1k book... |
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Post by treeoflife on Nov 26, 2011 14:31:15 GMT -8
The special edition book has 320 AP's? Holy smokes. The silkscreen, from the COA looks like it has 20. I really enjoy most of the work Ryden does, and applaud him for reaching the successes he has, but the gross proof runs coupled with the evolved pricing structure are a difficult pill to swallow.
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Post by oldfartatplay on Nov 26, 2011 17:55:19 GMT -8
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Post by jimandtara on Nov 26, 2011 17:57:57 GMT -8
Thanks for the info. I'm thinking well, that's good for Taschen, wealthy book collectors and Ryden but what about the calfs? Yeah, I was thinking the calfs got the shltty end of the stick in this deal as well! For MY next book I'm going green myself (or "Avocado Gold' as it were) - bad boy's going to be clad in reclaimed Corinthian leather from the interiors of 1975 Chrysler Cordoba's! Jim |
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Post by treeoflife on Nov 26, 2011 18:08:18 GMT -8
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Post by oldfartatplay on Dec 4, 2011 6:38:09 GMT -8
I think it's silly to sell a book for $1K. Limited edition of 1000 copies? Come on Mr Ryden, that's a million bucks for the run! It's a damn picture book man, granted it's got some nice pictures but your alienating your fan base. I think I'm not such a fan anymore. I'm going to backpedal on this a bit. I was reading somewhere that Ryden is not making a lot of money on this, the publisher is the one who is. So it's great book and good for him. And I'm still a fan just not a collector anymore  |
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Post by grotesqueanimal on Dec 7, 2011 8:47:00 GMT -8
I'm going to backpedal on this a bit. I was reading somewhere that Ryden is not making a lot of money on this, the publisher is the one who is. So it's great book and good for him. And I'm still a fan just not a collector anymore I have read that too (I guess from the same reputable source), and it is actually crazy to think that he does not make any money or hardly any money from it (also explains the high number of artist's proofs). Makes me wish even more that he had released it through Porterhouse, but I understand that this release through Taschen is great for his career. The Art Edition is sold out according to Taschen's website (not surprised by that). |
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