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Post by bigstrunso on Jan 12, 2009 13:20:48 GMT -8
Well, it's one thing to comment on paintings and suggest which one a person prefers over another, but when paintings are described as "bottom of the barrel," it just rubs me the wrong way.
This isn't the only place that I've seen comiconart making these type of comments on these pieces.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems to me like the classic case of someone buying a certain piece from a show and then bagging on other pieces online to exalt the piece they just purchased in someway.
So.......did you buy the umbrella piece comiconart? I'll bet you did and everything makes sense then.
BTW - those "high res" preview images were an even worse representation than the images that are up on the gallery page at the moment. Seeing these did not lend anyone any insight to the true nature of the pieces. If this is how your judgments have been based, well you both will be surprised if you have the chance to see them in person. The landscape piece is well finished. If you actually saw it in person, you would see that it is a country setting with much detail that is not viewable from the grainy preview picture or the gallery page.
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Post by comiconart on Jan 12, 2009 14:00:32 GMT -8
No, I didn't buy the umbrella piece. I wasn't even on the preview list, and a friend who WAS on the preview list did try to buy it, but was too late. Apparently, there were a few people interested in that one...unlike the abstract piece whose honor you are so ardently defending.
I'm sure it does look better in person, as all IFs do, and I appreciate the fact that you love it so much...but I do not care for it, and last time I checked, we are all entitled to our own opinions and are under no obligation whatsoever to agree with each other. That's why it's called an OPINION.
And, like it or not, every artist has a best piece, and a worst piece, or one that would be considered "bottom of the barrel". Of all of the Francis work I have seen, this one is among my least favorite. I have seen most of Ian's work over the last few years, and I love at least half of them, am indifferent to most of the others, and there are a few I well and truly dislike. This does not discount the skill involved in creating the work, and in all honesty I consider Francis to be one of, if not the, most technically skilled artists out there. That being said, I do not care for this piece. While I respect your right to love the piece, I would hope that you would extend the same courtesy to me and allow me to dislike the piece if I so choose. Fair enough?
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Post by bigstrunso on Jan 12, 2009 14:15:02 GMT -8
I'm not sure why you think I love the abstract piece. I do quite enjoy it and that's why immature comments like "bottom of the barrel" just rub me the wrong way. Not much thought put into a comment like that.
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Post by bigstrunso on Jan 12, 2009 14:22:12 GMT -8
The gallery mentioned that prices on these pieces are were they are do to the exchange rate.........
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Post by devours on Jan 12, 2009 14:25:54 GMT -8
I did not think eloquence was a prerequisite when it came to personal opinion. Terms like 'bottom of the barrel', 'stagnant', 'laughable', or 'mediocre' are certainly allowed in conversation when it comes to art. The merit of a lengthy discussion is often subjective. Our differing collective tastes, opinions and views are otherwise all relevant or not at all.
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Post by comiconart on Jan 12, 2009 14:32:47 GMT -8
I did not think eloquence was a prerequisite when it came to personal opinion. Terms like 'bottom of the barrel', 'stagnant', 'laughable', or 'mediocre' are certainly allowed in conversation when it comes to art. The merit of a lengthy discussion is often subjective. Our differing collective tastes, opinions and views are otherwise all relevant or not at all. Thanks devours, well said.
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Post by masao626 on Jan 12, 2009 14:33:53 GMT -8
I'm not sure why you think I love the abstract piece. I do quite enjoy it and that's why immature comments like "bottom of the barrel" just rub me the wrong way. Not much thought put into a comment like that. enough already, please. we welcome all new members but out the gate you seem to have some issues with Court - please take it to private messages. all opinions are welcome - whether they be considered half assed or the most eloquent thing ever uttered. we're a mixed bag here and a little patience and respect is what makes it work. welcome to the community, i hope you find more here to look at and enjoy and that this thread isn't the extent of your participation.
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Post by comiconart on Jan 12, 2009 14:35:31 GMT -8
Love the middle panel on the Choong Lee...had to do a double-take to make sure it really wasn't 3-D.
Like the Lamarche, as well...never seen his work before.
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Post by comiconart on Jan 12, 2009 14:43:09 GMT -8
Wow...! OK, that's the way it looked at first...but then, in the picture, the boxes line up perfectly with the perceived dimensions of the panel itself, so I thought it was just a crazy-cool 3-D painting. Hope that makes sense...
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Post by bigstrunso on Jan 12, 2009 14:43:37 GMT -8
Love the middle panel on the Choong Lee...had to do a double-take to make sure it really wasn't 3-D. Like the Lamarche, as well...never seen his work before. I had to do the same thing in person. Very well executed!
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Post by thecreep on Jan 12, 2009 16:46:44 GMT -8
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Post by comiconart on Jan 12, 2009 16:50:16 GMT -8
Nice pics! The staircase piece is still not a favorite, but I must admit, it is growing on me a bit.
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Post by rhinomilk on Jan 12, 2009 17:23:24 GMT -8
arg... wish i stopped by saturday night. will probably stop by and check out the show this week. toemah, did you see my girlfriend sylvia there?
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Post by thecreep on Jan 12, 2009 18:28:29 GMT -8
As far as artists at the show, I saw (but didn't speak to) Sylvia Ji, Van Arno, Adam Flores and Shawn Barber.
There was most likely more later, but we left kind of early.
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Post by juggernut3 on Jan 12, 2009 18:36:51 GMT -8
Creep... Beautiful pics. Makes the piece look much better.
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Post by rizza79 on Jan 12, 2009 20:02:19 GMT -8
Creep... Beautiful pics. Makes the piece look much better. the pics definitely make the staircase piece look better. the color palette is definitely different than all the images that I saw. almost looks like there are some greenish blue areas which I definitely could not see before. i like the piece a bit better now, but there definitely could be some more work on such a large space,imo. this work definitely feels different than a lot of the KDF work. I really enjoy how raw Ian's work appears though. i am excited to see what he has in store in the future.
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Post by thecreep on Jan 12, 2009 20:35:46 GMT -8
Creep... Beautiful pics. Makes the piece look much better. wow, thanks. I'm glad the pics help out. I try my hardest to make sure the pics I take show what they artwork looks like in person
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Post by rizza79 on Jan 12, 2009 23:48:13 GMT -8
thecreep.......do you have a piece of the abstract Francis piece too?
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Post by bigstrunso on Jan 13, 2009 0:01:21 GMT -8
thecreep.......do you have a piece of the abstract Francis piece too? and any other close-ups of all three pieces that you may have.......... ......i'll get my camera down there for more shots next week as well........
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Post by dellboyy on Jan 13, 2009 2:57:40 GMT -8
Wow, love the Ian Francis pieces... if i could get an original by anyone it would be him!
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Post by thecreep on Jan 13, 2009 7:57:06 GMT -8
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Post by svenman on Jan 13, 2009 12:11:10 GMT -8
good looking piece of art
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Post by sleepboy on Jan 13, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -8
The show great, I am very glad that I went to it. First time I have been able to see Ian Francis, Shawn Barber and David Choong Lee works in person. I have pics of the show on my flickr account, they are big but 72 dpi, I have 300dpi versions if anyone wants any: Thanks for the pics! This group show is as strong as they come.
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Post by rizza79 on Jan 13, 2009 15:01:40 GMT -8
the pics really do the abstract piece a lot more justice. you can see the landscaping and tunnel structure much more clear.
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