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Post by miskat on Dec 8, 2008 18:16:40 GMT -8
Sas's pieces for her Solo Opera Show made my jaw drop, her tighest and lushest images ever. Then I saw her last pieces for Copro and thought they were rushed and not her best work. (far from it) Allot of the work sold thru Opera is pre sold/commissions and many of their buyers will be celebrity or ultra rich people who invite the artist into their circle. The artist is inspired to do their best work for these collectors since it will be seen by all of their rich friends thus the artist market expands into important Blue Chip Collections building demand. So i do think they do better work and try harder for Opera. (wouldn't you) Also tripling the artist income helps. Robert Williams is now exclusively with the Tony Shafrazi Gallery in New York. Was not sure about Olivas & Peters signing with them, someone just mentioned it in passing as a maybe? my apologies to the board for continuing this off topic rant, but Excellent Virtue felt compelled to email me (and Sas) the link to this. I'm not really one for confrontation, but I'm not sure why he wanted to share this as it is quite obvious he does not know me, nor does he know Sas. It is also clear he never read the PR for Sas's show, as it clearly stated that this was a "mini-show" and the pieces were all studies and sketches for larger, future works. This was arranged by the gallery to accomodate THEIR collector base. Sas is probably hands-down the hardest working artist I have ever met and one of the most sincere as well; I am proud to call her a friend and deeply offended you would imply she has no passion and is somehow in it for the money. No one becomes a serious artist to get rich-- far from it. No one thinks about how we have no consistent income, no retirement benefits, no health insurance program, and no insurance galleries will actually pay you or take care of your work. We are responsible for all of the costs of our studios, our supplies, our shipping, our travel, etc...I have seen artist friends go bankrupt, get evicted, lose their husbands/ wives, become seriously ill with no way to pay for medical care, or even commit suicide based on their commitment to being an artist. I have been screwed over by galleries/ licensors/ collectors more times than I can count, as have most of my fellow artist friends. Please explain to me how poverty makes someone a better artist? Many of us go into debt and work long hours after a day job/s in hopes that some day we could afford to do this full-time. I have been working 50-80 hours a week since 1995 in order to get where I am at and if I am offered the opportunity to make the kind of work I want to make without the stress of how I am going to pay my electric bill every month, then I am going to take that seriously. No one decided to make better work because rich people are somehow better-- but if something takes you 8 months to make, you can't possibly expect to price it the same as the study for it that took you 2 weeks. I am all for supporting up and coming artists; Brandt and I literally use all of the profits from our printing business to support new talent, but we understand that in most cases, after gallery commission, supplies, etc most artists barely make a minimum hourly wage on their work. I can't imagine expecting someone to live their entire life that way; it would be selfish and arrogant of me as a collector to expect that. It is a natural progression for artists to want to create larger, more involved/ significant pieces. You should be happy for these people and not judging them; you have never walked in our shoes and are not accomplishing anything with all of your rumors and speculation. We are all real people with real feelings and real problems and every decision we make in our careers is heart-felt because we take it so seriously. Excellent Virtue, Please do not pretend you know me, in fact you should know better as you call yourself a gallery. Your statements are all complete contradictions and backhanded compliments-- I cannot possibly take any of your comments seriously and perhaps you should rethink your negative outlook as you are not doing this art movement any favors by bad-mouthing its success |
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Post by virtu on Dec 8, 2008 20:13:57 GMT -8
I keep reading my post and I see nothing negative about the artist?
Thinking you misunderstand my statements.
Never emailed any link to Sas, Yourself or anyone?
Iv sent business to your site to purchase prints more times than I can count but never stated I was a friend of yours or Sas's.
I never stated I was friends with any of the artist here? (that would be pompous)
Happy Holidays
My Best to You & Yours in 2009
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Post by sleepboy on Dec 8, 2008 21:42:28 GMT -8
Hi Kathie, sorry to have your first post be this  Not sure why Tom would email you the links to this thread and he says he didn't. It's really strange that something like that would happen. In any case thought I would do the whole moderator thing and get this thread back on topic (even though you alluded to this already). In Tom's defense he's always been good to me and the board, I hope it's all a misunderstanding. In terms of Sas's work, I too shared his opinion although now it all makes sense based on what you are saying. The press release must have been hard to see because I think this is new to alot of us. Or maybe we are just not very observant. I think that as this is a discussion board we are all entitled to our opinions including you but of course when there is misinformation out there, it needs to be corrected. Thanks for pointing out the PR. In terms of artist and their prices yes, of course if the work is larger or you spend more time on it then you should charge more. I think there have just been alot of rumors around about Opera Gallery that may or may not be true that they inflate prices but then offer huge discounts making it seem like they sell for high prices. Or that they claim show sold out but really they just paid an artist a set amount upfront for a body of work. I think it goes without saying that an artist should not have to live in poverty and can charge whatever they want...they should definitely maximize their potential like everyone else and you are right most artists don't go into this field to get rich but to do something the love. I think what people are wary about are artists being taken advantage by galleries promising things they can't keep ... of course there have to be some bad feelings when as a collector youa are priced out of an artist that you like ... but we should always wish an artist well I think. Again I know that alot of these things are rumor but that's what discussion boards are made for right. We definitely appreciate people setting things straight if they know another side of the story. Well, guess I should take my own advice and keep things on topic by stopping. |
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Post by masao626 on Dec 8, 2008 22:14:12 GMT -8
No one becomes a serious artist to get rich-- far from it. No one thinks about how we have no consistent income, no retirement benefits, no health insurance program, and no insurance galleries will actually pay you or take care of your work. We are responsible for all of the costs of our studios, our supplies, our shipping, our travel, etc...I have seen artist friends go bankrupt, get evicted, lose their husbands/ wives, become seriously ill with no way to pay for medical care, or even commit suicide based on their commitment to being an artist. I have been screwed over by galleries/ licensors/ collectors more times than I can count, as have most of my fellow artist friends. this is still off track (sorry sleep), but i think this segment of KO's post is so powerful - especially to hear it directly from an artist. I know the majority of us see art collecting as our personal passion but i myself rarely, if ever, have taken the time to absorb the sacrifice made by the artist to get it into my home. i just think that it's mighty powerful stuff. As Hung-hei stated, Tom has been very good to myself and this community, and Kathie has been absolutely wonderful to not only me, but to her legions of fans - my hope is that disagreements, misinformation or any other issues are resolved to the satisfaction of all. |
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Post by evilchoy on Dec 9, 2008 6:34:46 GMT -8
New page so I am taking back this thread: My latest Camilla grab bought it close to a month and a half ago  |
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Post by sleepboy on Dec 9, 2008 8:48:08 GMT -8
Nice one Aris. I was tempted by that when I saw it initially.
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Post by sleepboy on Dec 30, 2008 10:34:50 GMT -8
  Some new stuff, theme is the sea & sky I think. Honestly though, I would like her to take her work to the next level...change it up somehow. |
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Post by migston26 on Mar 20, 2009 12:27:42 GMT -8
Anyone else had experience ordering prints from her site? I've done it twice now and both times the packaging was less than stellar and the prints end up creased/bent.
It's a shame cause my wife really likes her work.
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Post by bebek on Mar 23, 2009 1:24:25 GMT -8
Both that I got had a very very small bend in just one of the corners. They're such a low price and it's never too bad that it's upset me. I love her work so much, I'm happy to just have some prints.
But yeah, I have had the same issue.
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Post by migston26 on Mar 23, 2009 9:36:30 GMT -8
^ Yeah our framing guy is pretty confident that he can fix/hide the damage. Like you said it was inexpensive and the print is unnumbered so in the end, the damage doesn't really matter.
Still not a good idea IMO. I dunno if she ever has plans to sell more expensive prints (limited run, larger size) but I feel like the shipping issues would give me pause before pulling the trigger.
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Post by greenhorn1 on Jul 28, 2009 10:19:04 GMT -8
Was in the comic shop over the weekend when I noticed Camilla is featured in the new "issue" of sparrow. It's a hardcover art book about 6" x 6". I think it was 48 pages of her art. I hadn't heard of the series before but it looked pretty cool. Looks like previous issues have included glenn barr and phil hale among others.
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Post by ionmagazine on Aug 5, 2009 11:25:50 GMT -8
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Post by sleepboy on Jun 11, 2010 19:58:40 GMT -8
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Post by jujurocs on Feb 19, 2012 14:20:36 GMT -8
Her first deluxe sculptural piece, a bust based on her painting No Ordinary Love:  |
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Post by sleepboy on Sept 27, 2012 11:06:42 GMT -8
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Post by saL on Oct 8, 2012 8:45:50 GMT -8
1xRun.com will be releasing a print by Camilla d'Errico, based on "Beyond The Rainbow" painting:  Camilla D'Errico Beyond The Rainbow 16 x 20 Inches Archival Pigment Print on 330gsm Fine Art Paper Price: TBD Release Date: TBD get your account @ 1xRun.com for more info on this release..
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Post by saL on Oct 10, 2012 8:08:29 GMT -8
 new print by Camilla d'Errico, edition of 50, available NOW for only $75 @ 1xRun.com! |
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