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Post by highbrow on Feb 11, 2009 20:32:33 GMT -8
I thought we were all talking about the amazing amount of pizza on the table
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Post by sleepboy on May 21, 2009 21:29:35 GMT -8
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Post by sleepboy on Jul 16, 2009 17:41:34 GMT -8
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Post by commandax on Jul 16, 2009 18:34:23 GMT -8
Andrew Hosner posted an interesting interview with collector John Purlia with pix of his great collection.
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Post by sleepboy on Oct 11, 2010 19:45:41 GMT -8
Part of Pirovino's Kaws collection.
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Post by svenman on Oct 12, 2010 1:01:14 GMT -8
piro rocks the kaws like no other!
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Post by jemappellekat on Oct 12, 2010 3:33:18 GMT -8
piro rocks the kaws like no other! I agree wholeheartedly! LOL.
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Post by sleepboy on Jun 23, 2011 7:23:05 GMT -8
Bobby Hundred's visits Jensen. Drool...
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Post by greenhorn1 on Jun 23, 2011 9:29:25 GMT -8
Is it typical that gallery owners take first pick of art from their shows for themselves? I know a lot of people wanted that keyes piece from the G1988 show.
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Post by commandax on Jun 23, 2011 12:06:35 GMT -8
Is it typical that gallery owners take first pick of art from their shows for themselves? I know a lot of people wanted that keyes piece from the G1988 show. If they've got the money, of course they do. Wouldn't you?
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Post by greenhorn1 on Jun 23, 2011 12:10:07 GMT -8
If they've got the money, of course they do. Wouldn't you? Oh I certainly would if I had a gallery lol. I just wondered if that was why it often seems like good pieces are sold before the preview emails are even sent out.
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Post by The Gorgon on Jun 23, 2011 14:13:23 GMT -8
That's why I would open a gallery.
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Post by solar77 on Jun 23, 2011 14:26:10 GMT -8
Is it typical that gallery owners take first pick of art from their shows for themselves? I know a lot of people wanted that keyes piece from the G1988 show. I know Deitch did at Shep's Mayday show.
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Post by grotesqueanimal on Jun 24, 2011 4:19:19 GMT -8
I'd probably open a gallery for the same reason, and certainly I never objected when getting first dibs on a show or a print release just because I was good friends with the gallery or artist. That is how it often works. But I also kept quiet when asked. Yet I think it is unfair to make collectors believe they can still have a shot at a piece when it is actually sold to yourself, as in this case. Seems somehow shady to me. If you are friends with the artist, you should be able to commission a piece for your own collection or make clear in the first place to collectors that a piece is not for sale. It would be interesting to hear the opinions of gallery owners
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Post by highbrow on Jun 24, 2011 7:30:14 GMT -8
One would wonder if having Keyes in your show was just a way to place a work in your collection?
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Post by epicfai on Jun 24, 2011 8:02:57 GMT -8
One would wonder if having Keyes in your show was just a way to place a work in your collection? i agree with katrin that this feels a tad shady. keyes was one of the big draws at that show and the illusion that a keyes piece would be for sale was one of the factors that built hype for the show. i think i would feel differently if they had a keyes show and the owner bought one for himself. keeping the only piece and then not being up front to collectors who inquired in advance just seems wrong to me. why not just tell folks it wont be for sale? i suppose i am just being naive; i do realize that connections are the currency of collecting. well, that and money.
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Post by commandax on Jun 24, 2011 9:27:31 GMT -8
i agree with katrin that this feels a tad shady. keyes was one of the big draws at that show and the illusion that a keyes piece would be for sale was one of the factors that built hype for the show. i think i would feel differently if they had a keyes show and the owner bought one for himself. keeping the only piece and then not being up front to collectors who inquired in advance just seems wrong to me. why not just tell folks it wont be for sale? i suppose i am just being naive; i do realize that connections are the currency of collecting. well, that and money. I think you can safely assume that if there is just one Keyes piece in a group show, unless you are the gallery owner, show curator, or their best friend, you're not going to get it. But hope springs eternal.
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Post by highbrow on Jun 24, 2011 9:32:52 GMT -8
So why not just list the work as on display or as NFS on the preview and web. Many people would still head out to see the show, Keyes sells out every show and people go all month to take a peek. Just seems like a bad move on the gallery's part, why advertise the work if prior to it being created you know its going to your personal collection.
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Post by commandax on Jun 24, 2011 10:38:17 GMT -8
So why not just list the work as on display or as NFS on the preview and web. Many people would still head out to see the show, Keyes sells out every show and people go all month to take a peek. Just seems like a bad move on the gallery's part, why advertise the work if prior to it being created you know its going to your personal collection. People get upset either way, whether a coveted piece is listed as available or as already sold when the preview comes out. Also, I imagine most gallery owners aren't 100% sure if they're going to buy a painting until they actually see it — even a Keyes or a Ryden. What if the artist has made a big stylistic shift, slapped something lame together to meet the deadline, or instituted a big price jump? You never know.
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Post by epicfai on Jun 24, 2011 11:18:45 GMT -8
i agree with katrin that this feels a tad shady. keyes was one of the big draws at that show and the illusion that a keyes piece would be for sale was one of the factors that built hype for the show. i think i would feel differently if they had a keyes show and the owner bought one for himself. keeping the only piece and then not being up front to collectors who inquired in advance just seems wrong to me. why not just tell folks it wont be for sale? i suppose i am just being naive; i do realize that connections are the currency of collecting. well, that and money. I think you can safely assume that if there is just one Keyes piece in a group show, unless you are the gallery owner, show curator, or their best friend, you're not going to get it. But hope springs eternal. well, sure. but why pretend it will be available? just say the piece is NFS. i dont see that making people upset. or failing that, maybe not the best idea to invite bobby hundreds and his camera over to share your collection with the world, lol... honestly, im not a big fan of this particular keyes piece. i dont think its one of his better works. i do remember all the hype this piece generated among his collectors though. i'm not upset at all personally that he set aside the piece for himself. i could imagine how certain collectors might get a bad taste in their mouth about G1988 as a result though. just doesnt strike me as a good business/pr move. clearly i have too much time on my hands today.
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Post by epicfai on Jun 24, 2011 11:39:32 GMT -8
I will say, that I appreciated other galleries like Thinkspace, Roq La Rue, Corey Helford, MK Gallery, and Nucleus a lot more after after seeing how G1988 does business. I removed my name/email from there lists, and have zero desire to buy from them unless I absolutely had to.. And it is nice being off there lists because I was getting so sick of theme after theme after theme show with very little interesting work. yeah, this is pretty much the reaction i figure some collectors will have. bad move from a PR perspective. nobody appreciates having their time/effort wasted. if something isnt going to be availabe just be open about it. i think in the long run your collector base will certainly appreciate it. 'nuff said. as for the ever dreaded theme show... they've sure brought this to a whole new level of late... a theme show based on a video game that is based on a book? *head explodes*
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Post by sleepboy on Feb 28, 2012 23:01:32 GMT -8
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Post by volvic on Feb 29, 2012 4:49:07 GMT -8
Looking through deitchs collection has made me want a retna and a CYW, both look great there.
i would like to see jamie from parklife's collection or al morans
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Post by shine166 on Feb 29, 2012 5:05:06 GMT -8
All that money and he only got a standard Banksy
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Post by Weezy on Feb 29, 2012 5:56:41 GMT -8
All that money and he only got a standard Banksy I was thinking all that money and no drapes, rugs or much furniture... Weezy
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