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Post by sin on Aug 19, 2013 18:18:58 GMT -8
Hello guys / gals, quick question.
I am sending my Brian Adam Douglas (Elbow Toe) to New York for his upcoming show.
The gallery told me their insurance would cover the work but should I have some agreement with the gallery to do this? If so, whats the type of document called, does anyone have an example?
Warm regards - Craig
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Post by jseife on Aug 19, 2013 18:54:38 GMT -8
Hello guys / gals, quick question. I am sending my Brian Adam Douglas (Elbow Toe) to New York for his upcoming show. The gallery told me their insurance would cover the work but should I have some agreement with the gallery to do this? If so, whats the type of document called, does anyone have an example? Warm regards - Craig Hey Craig, this is a good question. Definitely always better to be safe. First off im curious as to why the gallery is interested in hanging a pre sold work? are you willing to re sell it with them? The reason i ask is becasue i recently was part of a group show where one of my pieces intended for the show i sold out of studio before the show, when i contacted the curator he said it was fine and to send the piece anyways and that they would just mark it as sold on opening night. however once it was sent and the gallery owner found out it was already sold before hand he no longer wanted to hang it as there was no point in taking up space on the wall for something that wasnt going to bring him revenue. however this was a group show so the space was limited. im sure this can change depending on galleries. but i would definitely get something on paper that says you own the work and it is not to be sold as well as the dates the piece is to be shown and delivered back to you by. |
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Post by mose on Aug 20, 2013 8:31:32 GMT -8
Be very careful about this. I know my insurance, Chubb, will not cover loaned out work without pre-clearance. Also, I never accept 'don't worry about it'. Everything must be in writing, recognizing the insurance coverage(and when it begins, does it cover transport to and from, or only at gallery), shipping costs, return shipping costs, and explicitly stating ownership. I've heard nightmare stories, with things like consignments, of galleries going out of business and people losing their artwork to the nightmare of bankruptcy court.
There are several forum people who had loaned work to the Shepard Fairey retrospective a while ago. Someone might have a copy of the documentation from that.
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Post by afroken on Aug 20, 2013 10:50:33 GMT -8
Agree with Mose. I loaned a work to the Thousands exhibition put on by Vandalog. In my experience, once the exhibition is up and all the niceties are out if the way, you and your artwork are worth shit to the curator who's done their job. Anything could happen at this point. I had a bad experience but...
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Post by dotdot on Aug 20, 2013 11:04:15 GMT -8
I've been down the road as well but pulled out after consulting with a few folks. I was positively advised against it due to damage fears and curator attitude describe above, not the same show Afro.
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Post by sin on Aug 20, 2013 13:52:09 GMT -8
does anyone think that with the proper paperwork its ok or are you guys saying under no circumstances does it make sense?
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Post by mose on Aug 20, 2013 13:56:14 GMT -8
part of me says, "what's in it for you?"
Do you want to establish a relationship with this gallery, in order to buy future work? Are you looking to gain favor with Brian?
Because, honestly, being in a show adds nothing to the value of your work. So, would you be doing it for any reason beneficial to you?
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Post by drevil on Aug 20, 2013 13:56:26 GMT -8
What good is the proper paperwork though? You would likely need to go to court to enforce it and attorney fees will surpass the cost of the work very quickly.
Lending = lots to lose and little to gain.
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Post by svenman on Aug 20, 2013 14:21:54 GMT -8
is it a 'retrospective' type show or a 'selling' show? i'm presuming a selling show...
has the gallery owner told you what his motivations are for including the work you own in the show? maybe the artist is lacking content / maybe the gallery figures red dots look good?
i commissioned an artist to produce a piece a few years back and it was due for delivery way ahead of his upcoming solo. his gallerist contacted me and asked if he could show the painting as part of the show. partly for both reasons above. i agreed.
i was promised something by the gallerist for my trouble.
it never materialised though. hey ho. though i'm not surprised.
as afro as much as says above, no one will care for your artwork as much as you do.
i loaned something to an institution. all seemed above board and it mostly was. apart from the 'experienced fine art handler' that was going to come to my house to take the piece and crate it. he wanted to wrap the oil painting in an old blanket for 'protection'. i was pretty horrified. i refused to let them take it and made them come back properly prepared. all worked out in the end though, but not without stress that could have easily been avoided if all promises made were upheld in the first place.
whilst it's nice to see your piece being enjoyed by other people, i'd say understand your own but also the galleries motivations, satisfy yourself that the insurance is above board and retain as much control of the situation as you possibly can before you decide what to do.
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