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Post by wimbledongreen on Mar 18, 2014 14:06:34 GMT -8
What do you all think? These are digital "paintings" that are printed onto canvas which are then coated with a varnish to give it a more hand-painted appearance. Here's a video showing the pieces being assembled at the printing company and an installation shot of finished pieces below.
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Post by ricosg11 on Mar 18, 2014 14:33:57 GMT -8
The real art here was the building of this market, and Murillo's, ect ect.
What are you really buying into here? An idea? OK, an idea. What's the idea here? Is it a la Banksy, "I cant believe you morons..."
Dont get me wrong, I think the digital, the mechanically rendered, is the future of art. But why these works? Why are they important? Why are they interesting? Why do they add to the conversation. They are printed ipad doodles, no? Artie Vierkant is running conceptual circles around work like this.
Someone school me here. I want to like it.
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Post by drevil on Mar 18, 2014 14:59:58 GMT -8
To me it is primitive art meets the digital age. Finger painting meets the iPad.
That and he was tapped by a some people leading the herd.
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Post by 80 on Mar 18, 2014 17:22:26 GMT -8
guess the art world is in that awkward phase where it figures out how to authentically address the virtual age while keeping things as physical and commodified as possible
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Post by vlcane on Mar 18, 2014 18:20:55 GMT -8
Rico, thanks for turning me on to Artie. Very interesting
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Post by fried on Mar 19, 2014 2:10:30 GMT -8
possibly the dullest video i've ever seen
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Post by volvic on Mar 19, 2014 3:32:06 GMT -8
I don't think the strength of a conceptual idea is the be all and end all of what makes a piece of work successful but i do agree that artists like Dwyler Kilcollins / Artie Vierkant / and Hannah Whitaker all have a far more superior approach when it comes to production. For me these works are fun, pretty and on the cusp of the digital art era (along with parker ITO etc) but don't blow my mind conceptually. And i must admit, seeing them all being produced at such a high volume like that has kind of put me off.
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Post by sam.register on Mar 25, 2014 16:42:51 GMT -8
toddler's watercolors.
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Post by wimbledongreen on Mar 25, 2014 18:03:42 GMT -8
I've had a strong resistance to digitally printed works and seeing the video initially turned me off. But watching the video a second time (yes, I watched that dreadful video twice) made me rethink my objections to the digitally printed painting. I think most people are still attached to an oil/acrylic on canvas as the top of the heap as far as modern painting goes. Photography will always be considered second class. And a digital painting may be even more difficult to accept. It's hard to see a canvas digitally printed then assembled by a production crew. We think of paintings as a unique object that can never be duplicated again.
But if this is the object the artist has designated as his work then it should be accepted without comparing it to an oil painting, sculpture, or film. As part of his retrospective exhibitions David Hockney has chosen to display a number of digital paintings. I think he understands that what he creates on an iPad and how it comes out in its physical form is going to give him something different (and desired) from an oil painting, watercolor, or lithograph.
In any case digital paintings are something I've been thinking about lately (I have too much free time it appears) and was wondering if anyone else had embraced digital paintings into their collection or still apprehensive about them.
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Post by ricosg11 on Mar 28, 2014 3:52:51 GMT -8
You made a comment in the Lucien thread that Manning is being written off as a "my kid could do that" artist. Re-reading my comment above, I see what you mean. But that couldnt have been further from what I wanted to express.
At least half the artists I appreciate and collect are making work in the digital realm. Im open and accepting of it. In fact, I think it's where the future of art is headed. The acceptance of the medium is inevitable. My issue with Manning's work is that they seem like studies for some larger idea that are being pumped out as completed works. I believe that the artists he is being grouped with came to his conclusions, and passed right by them two or three years ago. That said, Id like to see what he comes up with for his next body of work. Hopefully it doesn't involve glitter (a la Retna and his "evolution" as an artist).
When you've got guys like Hockney experimenting with the medium...
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Post by wimbledongreen on Mar 28, 2014 9:51:41 GMT -8
Ha ha...yes glitter would be bad.
Hockney is fascinating. His imagery doesn't make you think this is someone who wants or needs to explore technological innovations but he experimented quite a bit with the color copy machine when those first came out. Sort of early digital prints if you will. And he's exploring iPhone and iPad programs to make his art. Always testing the waters to see what it and he can do. Very inspiring.
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Post by jacki on Sept 20, 2014 5:16:03 GMT -8
It's raining artists like that..
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Post by pokymoll on Sept 24, 2014 22:57:57 GMT -8
The real art here was the building of this market, and Murillo's, ect ect. What are you really buying into here? An idea? OK, an idea. What's the idea here? Is it a la Banksy, "I cant believe you morons..." Dont get me wrong, I think the digital, the mechanically rendered, is the future of art. But why these works? Why are they important? Why are they interesting? Why do they add to the conversation. They are printed ipad doodles, no? Artie Vierkant is running conceptual circles around work like this. Someone school me here. I want to like it. Totally agree
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Post by sleepboy on May 28, 2015 21:39:15 GMT -8
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Post by artladval on May 30, 2015 15:16:24 GMT -8
The 3D printed works are the peak of his Pandora paintings:
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Post by tipduncan on Jun 1, 2015 20:30:57 GMT -8
How anybody can actually take this "work" serious is just beyond me. Just make one yourself!
Step 1: Buy an iPad Step 2: Download any of the FREE paint programs Step 3: Just whip your fingers back and forth across the screen in a bunch of different horrible pastel colors Step 4: Have it printed on canvas Step 5: Apply a glaze medium from Dick Blick to make it look more like a "real painting". Step 6: Dump at Phillips
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