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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 15:20:24 GMT -8
Just got an email from my framer - still trying to decide if i like it (i DESPISE mats), makes an original look like a print. arg.  |
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Post by benvan on Apr 25, 2008 15:32:56 GMT -8
I agree, I think mats are unnecessary in most cases, not to mention mat board is a cheaper material, I prefer just to have the nice frame and the piece.
Though, in this case, if you are going with a gold colored frame, the buffer of black might be a good thing with the greyscale image.
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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 15:35:36 GMT -8
actually the frame is silver/antiqued and the mat isn't black, it's a capuccino color to pick up on the undertones of the piece itself.
these are piccies from my framer and they're all 'fancy' looking. we'll see how it looks in real life.
i'm a little bummed.
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Post by benvan on Apr 25, 2008 16:15:06 GMT -8
man my color sense is way off. I think the detail looks good and seems to pick up the detail on the top edge of the couch real well, including the little bit of detail on the inside edge of the mat.
I tend to be somewhat contrarian and architectural with my framing ideas though, I always want to make them myself and do something modern in steel or wood regardless of the piece they are framing. I could definitely imaging that Tin piece sitting in a thin (1/2") steel plate frame that could be 2-3" deep. It's a lot of work though, which explains why I haven't done many yet.
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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 16:26:57 GMT -8
you remind of plandesign39 - he framed his tin up in a silver, sorta beaten metal looking frame. He posted it in the tin thread.
i appreciate you taking time to have a dialogue with me about this - this is only the second piece i've ever framed and it's the first custom job i've had done. i've been very slow to frame anything. i still have 4 originals that NEED frames (all from tin) and over a 100 prints.
it's gonna kill me.
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Post by sleepboy on Apr 25, 2008 16:34:03 GMT -8
i think the frame is nice, but not sure about the matte. i've had to reframe things that have been matted before and it discolors the part that is under the matte. or maybe the non-matted part is a little more faded but in any case you can see like a line (like a bikini mark on a tan kinda). so i would be hesitant matting over any part that is painted unless you plan to keep it matted forever.
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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 17:08:12 GMT -8
tin actually paints his pieces in a squared off section on the paper - so there is a border of untouched paper along the edges and that's where matte sits. i think in this case it'll be fine, but i totally hear what you're saying. i hate mattes. alot  |
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Post by mute on Apr 25, 2008 17:12:43 GMT -8
i've been very slow to frame anything. i still have 4 originals that NEED frames (all from tin) and over a 100 prints. it's gonna kill me. The Tin's are all black and white, right? So are you going to use the same kind of frame for all of them? Since Sleep says it has a chance of fading it and you hate mattes I wouldn't use one. I also wouldn't want to cover any part of an original piece if you didn't have to. I do like that frame. But... since you posted about the border right before I posted this response I like the way it looks with the matte. |
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Post by marcusslo on Apr 25, 2008 17:20:43 GMT -8
tin actually paints his pieces in a squared off section on the paper - so there is a border of untouched paper along the edges and that's where matte sits. i think in this case it'll be fine, but i totally hear what you're saying. i hate mattes. alot that's exactly how my allison sommers is... so i guess i need to use a mat as well... hmm |
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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 17:22:57 GMT -8
i definitely am going to go for a similiar look for them all, but i think i'm doing different frames - same color family.
the matte situation will continue to plague me - i need to use glass since these are charcoal and need to be protected - plus because he doesn't work all the way to the edge, there's an unsightly border all around the piece that has to be covered by something. i wish it could be just frame.
spacers look funny on these - the borders/paper isn't normal. it actually looks and feels like sandpaper. i have no clue what it actually is.
it's a pain and i'm picky but i LOVE his work so i'll live. somehow.
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Post by masao626 on Apr 25, 2008 17:24:41 GMT -8
that's exactly how my allison sommers is... so i guess i need to use a mat as well... hmm you can user spacers so that the piece is away from the frame, but for tin's stuff, like i said above, the paper is a bizarre texture and color so i think the spacers would show that if you got up really close and looked from the side. i couldn't live with that cause i'm neurotic. |
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Post by commandax on May 14, 2008 21:00:17 GMT -8
I walked into a very high-end framing shop today with two very small, very unvaluable paintings that I adore. I wasn't too sure of what my reception would be, but I wanted to get really great frames for them and make sure they were being left at a place that would take very good care of them.
I needn't have worried. After talking to the framer for a little while and choosing an amazing frame, I mentioned that they were not very grand pieces, probably not the sort of thing he usually frames. He said, "I would much rather frame a little piece like this that someone really loves than a Chagall that someone bought as an investment."
I thought that was really nice.
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Post by ck on May 14, 2008 21:54:54 GMT -8
I walked into a very high-end framing shop today with two very small, very unvaluable paintings that I adore. I wasn't too sure of what my reception would be, but I wanted to get really great frames for them and make sure they were being left at a place that would take very good care of them. I needn't have worried. After talking to the framer for a little while and choosing an amazing frame, I mentioned that they were not very grand pieces, probably not the sort of thing he usually frames. He said, "I would much rather frame a little piece like this that someone really loves than a Chagall that someone bought as an investment." I thought that was really nice. which frame shop did you go to? i'm currently looking for a good one in los angeles. |
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Post by commandax on May 15, 2008 9:47:47 GMT -8
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Post by svenman on May 16, 2008 1:21:23 GMT -8
I walked into a very high-end framing shop today with two very small, very unvaluable paintings that I adore. I wasn't too sure of what my reception would be, but I wanted to get really great frames for them and make sure they were being left at a place that would take very good care of them. /quote] hey, the framer is providing a service at the end of the day.... you shouldn't feel that you are below him!! the small but great framer i use is in a smallish provincial town where i work. they do some nice work, but they also frame tea towels and shizzle for old ladies! |
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Post by marcusslo on May 26, 2008 21:23:21 GMT -8
i'd like to hear of some bad/good experiences with framers... would be nice to have a list of go to places and places to stay away from
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Post by commandax on Jun 26, 2008 20:16:49 GMT -8
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Post by benvan on Jun 27, 2008 9:58:06 GMT -8
I'm thinking of starting to make my own frames for my collection and my own paintings, as I am generally averse to most reasonably priced frames out there, and would like to try some different types of/and more modern frames. I think I will work mainly in wood, but if the piece deserves it, I have a little metal work experience and can try some metal frames. Does anybody else have any experience in making frames? Any tips?
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Post by svenman on Jun 27, 2008 14:38:11 GMT -8
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Post by oldfartatplay on Jun 27, 2008 15:01:48 GMT -8
I'm thinking of starting to make my own frames for my collection and my own paintings, as I am generally averse to most reasonably priced frames out there, and would like to try some different types of/and more modern frames. I think I will work mainly in wood, but if the piece deserves it, I have a little metal work experience and can try some metal frames. Does anybody else have any experience in making frames? Any tips? I do some woodworking and recently reframed a few pieces that came in some awful cheap junk frames. They came out nice and the artist was also very happy. I would say first that you would need the right tools (table saw, router, joiner, etc). The most difficult task is getting the corners cut at perfect 45° angles, if it's just a fraction off the whole thing won't be square, it can be really frustrating. If I can give any other advice let me know. Good luck! |
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Post by benvan on Jun 27, 2008 15:08:12 GMT -8
Cool, I have the necessary tools (or will shortly), but have only a little experience in woodworking. I figure it will be a trial and error process for a while. The 45's do scare me a bit, especially with the steel frames. I might take you up on the advice when I get going in a week or so.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Post by oldfartatplay on Jun 27, 2008 17:19:26 GMT -8
Cool, I have the necessary tools (or will shortly), but have only a little experience in woodworking. I figure it will be a trial and error process for a while. The 45's do scare me a bit, especially with the steel frames. I might take you up on the advice when I get going in a week or so. Thanks for the help guys. Feel free to do so  |
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Post by masao626 on Jun 28, 2008 5:30:21 GMT -8
I'm sure the frame is too much for a lot of folks, but i can't see lori's work in anything but over the top ornate - so please give me a color opinion: should i keep this frame silver or go with a black color:  for this earley print:  |
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Post by sketchypad on Jun 28, 2008 7:12:41 GMT -8
Hard to give an opinion without a visualization, so I cranked this out quickly in photoshop ...  I think the silver frame works better, since it's a nice contrast with the print, and accents it nicely. For me, the black seems very overwhelming, although the print really does pop. |
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Post by masao626 on Jun 28, 2008 7:23:21 GMT -8
dude, you're an angel! i can't work photoshop for anything (sad, i know). wow. i'm a little torn here.
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