i think people are looking into this too much.... part of the culture at least here in NYC is too add on to a thrown piece and make them better... If Robbo and Banksy were really having a spat they would either X it out, or cover the whole piece up....
My opinion I see this more of a bunch of artist having fun and working on a piece together and teasing or egging each other on no tupac biggie shit going down here.... no harm done carry on....
ken - i'm no expert on uk graf or writers either, but i do appreciate me some street art.
my interest in graf and street art goes back years, but only as i have always had an interest in subcultures - hip hop and the graf that came with it that goes back to when i was 10 years old and enjoying old school electro and spinning around on bits of lino and also punk and hardcore - spiking up my hair and pogoing about to what i thought was really punk shit at the time - it was a fun and exciting time to be growing up in the 80's! - but have been into street art more seriously over the last 6-8 years.
my very basic understanding is that graf writers generally don't have much time for street art. street art is, in my mind, an evolution of graf - and builds from the seeds and ideals that the early writers planted. some writers don't entertain street artists as it is not the 'pure' essence of what graf was originally about....
i hadn't heard of robbo before this, and i don't think i'd really missed out on much. the original piece was not much to look at, but i find it interesting that this piece had actually survived for 20 years without being fully tagged over or ever buffed.
obviously he has more standing with other writers and pure graf fans than banksy does due to his being there 20 years ago, so i think the point about street 'cred' is purely subjective to whichever side of the fence you are on - i'm sure banksy has more credibility with people who enjoy humour and originality in his art than taggers or writers do. one man's trash is another man's treasure though.
i'm not sure who is doing this 'team' robbo thing, but i would guess that it is not robbo himself, just some crew that feels that they can wind up the banksy loving public by taking cheap shots and spinning out publicity and essentially getting their name out there, which is back to what graf is all about. i don't think it's shameless self promotion steve - it's just graf writers taking the piss a bit - writing their name on other people's property is what they do.... i guess we are propagating the buzz that 'team' robbo are creating for themselves by posting about it and discussing it here.
street art can carry a powerful message, but i guess that the message that pure graf writing carries is essentially someone's name. i'm not too interested in that other than from a purely aesthetic viewpoint, which is pretty much the same level of appreciation i had when i was 10 years old.
Mr Brainwash, an artist with a lot of controversy surrounding him. People seem to either love him or hate him (there doesn’t seem to be too many in the middle). He has an opening coming up @ Opera Galley NYC next month.
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I think people should retitle this: Robbo vs. Banksy. It's clear that Banksy stirred up the hornet's next by unwittingly going over Robbo's piece last November. (But that was almost 1/2 year ago) Since then this has clearly gone one sided.
It takes two party of similar or near equal power to make a significant war (last). There's not a real "war" as it's Robbo going berserk on Banksy. I would consider it more like an ambush. At least until Banksy decides to make it into a war... (then it'll get interesting.)
IMHO: Robbo is old school and pretty witty, but he's out of his league when it comes to Banksy. I think Banksy will disintegrate him if he ever decides to flex his stencils on poor Robbo...
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