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Post by fonger on Apr 20, 2011 22:13:39 GMT -8
does anyone thinks this could be Barry's piece?  looks fake to me tho...  |
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Post by saL on Apr 21, 2011 3:30:14 GMT -8
thanks for the input guys!
so far we have one real, and one fake (my opinion to be honest).. anyone else got ANY inputs?!.. does anyone knows if pieces like this are usually signed, or?!...
cheers!
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Post by shine166 on Apr 21, 2011 4:59:25 GMT -8
Barry does not sign his works. He has painted the hitler bottles in the past, no idea if that specific one is fake though
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Post by afroken on Apr 21, 2011 6:03:17 GMT -8
Nothing about suggests it's a fake. It totally looks like his work. Doesn't mean it's real though.
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Post by saL on Apr 21, 2011 8:05:13 GMT -8
"hitler bottles"?!?.. are they really called like that, or you just made that up.. hehe..
thanks for input guys.. I know he did this kind of work, but to be honest, I never seen one attached to a piece of wood like this, plus the lines around eyes look a bit strange for his style (not that I know ANYTHING about his style)..
if only there was way to make sure this is authentic...
thanks once again everyone... I appreciate it...
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Post by jB on Apr 21, 2011 8:28:51 GMT -8
does anyone thinks this could be Barry's piece? I agree with Afro, he's done this sort of work before. So nothing seems too off. Your best bet is to try and contact Chris at Ratio3 or even try to contact Roberts and Tilton or PrismLA to see if that can get a definitive answer for you. There are some fake McGee's out there, so definitely worth taking the time before hopping into anything. |
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Post by saL on Apr 21, 2011 9:22:46 GMT -8
thanks for all the inputs and suggestions fellas, I'll see what I dig out, and hope I wont make a wrong move...
THANKS!
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Post by shine166 on Apr 21, 2011 9:58:39 GMT -8
"hitler bottles"?!?.. are they really called like that, or you just made that up.. hehe.. lol yer made up. The best thing you can do is reference it to a show. My Mcgee has no physical provenance, but a bit of research made be happy enough to finalize a deal |
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Post by saL on Apr 22, 2011 3:57:15 GMT -8
ok, so the bottle sold for $255 last night..
it was on eBay, and I end up not bidding for it.. too many things were way to suspicious to be true, plus, few people that are familiar with Barry's art wrote me that it looks fake, and pretty bad fake too, that Barry's brushwork is much more detailed and smooth (which I kind of thought as well).. others told me that they can't authenticate it this way..
anyways, thanks once again for everyone's input, and I guess "the deal of a lifetime" doesn't really come that often (ever)...
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Post by shine166 on Apr 22, 2011 5:18:43 GMT -8
fair play, really is hard to tell from the image above
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Post by solar77 on Apr 22, 2011 6:31:28 GMT -8
Well, either someone got paid really well for a bottle and a piece of wood or someone gave away a McGee original. Goes to show why good provenance is so important.
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Post by skycap404 on Apr 22, 2011 13:15:53 GMT -8
Without provenance it's worth what anyone is willing to pay for it, but worth $0 at any legit auction house. Also WAY too many things suspicious about that listing (seller on vacation, only item for sale, no feedback to speak of, little description). I say fake. Any real collector or person who just stumbled on it would list it that way.
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Post by skycap404 on Apr 22, 2011 13:16:36 GMT -8
would *NOT* list it that way, I mean.
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Post by rkitek on Apr 22, 2011 13:54:40 GMT -8
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Post by saL on Apr 22, 2011 14:12:12 GMT -8
thanks for that photo... I'd say the difference is obvious... |
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Post by shine166 on Apr 22, 2011 15:58:15 GMT -8
 This image is from 'Widely unknown' at Deitch in 2001. If anyone can find me a better image of this exact Barry Mcgee cluster I would be very grateful. |
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Post by shine166 on May 17, 2011 2:18:51 GMT -8
Hi everyone, im trying to buy one of these tee's.. shop.rvca.com/Twist/pd/c/108/np/108/p/4121.htmlbut postage is $50, is anyone else interested in one? Maybe we could bulk buy to save shipping or get delivered to a US address (free postage over $100) and then have them forwarded onto the UK ? If anyone else is game please let me know, il get a list together |
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Post by jB on May 17, 2011 6:11:04 GMT -8
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Post by saL on May 17, 2011 7:33:35 GMT -8
hey shine, I might be interested in a shirt project, so count me in for one!  |
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Post by amin on May 17, 2011 8:12:25 GMT -8
stop showing it off in all the different threads : Just kidding. I'm glad you got it. I wanted the red one but, someone snatched it up before me. |
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Post by jB on May 17, 2011 9:57:56 GMT -8
yeah - sorry about that, really happy with it, and just thought this would be the appropriate place to have it. my apologies if it looks like i am trying to shove it down your throats.
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Post by shine166 on May 17, 2011 14:35:51 GMT -8
hey shine, I might be interested in a shirt project, so count me in for one! Cool, 5 tee's is free shipping and il take 2 of them. If anyone else is interested let me know. |
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Post by gamma888 on May 31, 2011 11:14:37 GMT -8
It seems like the date for Barry's retrospective exhibition at Berkeley Art Museum has been set in the stone: Sept. 2012-December 2012. www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/press/scheduleFrom BAMPFA's press room: "Barry McGee September 2012 through December 2012 BAM/PFA’s midcareer retrospective of influential San Francisco-based artist Barry McGee will provide an opportunity to explore two decades of the artist’s formal, material, and thematic development. McGee began sharing his work in the 1980s, not in a museum or gallery setting but on the streets of San Francisco, where he developed his skills as a graffiti artist, often using the tag name “Twist.” McGee uses a vocabulary drawn from comics, hobo art, sign painting, and graffiti to address a range of issues, from individual survival to social malaise to alternative forms of community. He is that rare artist who has made the transition from public to private space, from outdoors to indoors, without compromising aesthetics or intent. McGee’s extraordinary skill as a draughtsman is balanced by an interest in pushing the boundaries of art: his work can be shockingly informal in the gallery and surprisingly elegant on the street. As unconventional as its subject, BAM/PFA’s retrospective reimagines McGee’s most influential installations. McGee will reunite with previous collaborators, aliases, and materials to create a dynamic theater that challenges the boundaries of the exhibition space. Strategically bringing detritus from the cityscape into the orderly spaces of the museum, he plans to adapt these installations to the unique architecture of BAM/PFA. The exhibition centers around seven major installations, plus a tower of one hundred television sets; animatronic taggers; a 150-foot three-dimensional cluster of paintings, drawings, and photographs; and an exterior graffiti mural covering the gallery’s façade of windows, visible from both inside and outside. Adjacent galleries will display a selection of McGee’s work from the 1990s to the present, including a number of rarely seen early works, many collaborative projects, and some unexpected media. Curated by BAM/PFA Director Lawrence Rinder, the project will include a touring exhibition, a major catalog, and extensive public programs." Do I sense a future AM gathering from all over the world? Guess it's good time to save some $$$ to fly out to San Francisco for any of you McGee fans! |
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Post by fonger on May 31, 2011 12:11:54 GMT -8
a 150-foot three-dimensional cluster of paintings holy shit!!!!!!this is what i can't wait to see... would love to see his early work as well as collabo pieces. this whole exhibition will be insane. Thanks gamma888 for heads up. do you happen to have any info on his new show coming up in london next month or so? |
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Post by svenman on May 31, 2011 12:30:02 GMT -8
that does sound great. i'm hoping to come out to sf for this show. one of the most important artists of our generation to me, and a chance in a lifetime to see such an extensive collection of his works together in one place.
fonger - london? any more info you can share?
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