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Post by mute on Jul 22, 2008 15:06:38 GMT -8
Even Ebay wont list things in the USA as default.. Why is this. Are there new forms to fill in or something that makes shipping outside the country more complicated? They just started doing this here in the U.S. a few months back. I only noticed this because I buy a lot of 7" records from the UK(for some reason vinyl is more popular in Europe) and every time I would search nothing would come up. I haven't figured out how to make the "worldwide" search a default yet either which annoys the hell out of me. It doesn't make any since, people use Ebay to find rare items, why wouldn't they want to know if someone in another country was offering that item. Back on topic: I 'm kind of liking it now I realized it's smaller than I'd thought. Before when I thought it was bigger the frame came across as a bit gaudy. |
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 6, 2008 22:18:06 GMT -8
Pressure Printing has a very interesting rundown of the process behind the creation of Travis Louie's "Bride of Stan" intaglio etching. So glad that I grabbed one of these... pressureprinting.blogspot.com/  jIm |
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Post by doktor on Aug 6, 2008 23:33:04 GMT -8
What a great blog.
Bookmarked that one. Very interesting indeed.
Thanks for posting that.
And if anyone is interested in a trade for a custom toy piece of mine i would happily trade for the "Bride of Stan".
(PM me..)
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Post by marcusslo on Aug 7, 2008 8:59:38 GMT -8
just went thru the blog... just amazing... everything is beautiful... even Travis' signature
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Post by lowpro on Aug 8, 2008 16:13:10 GMT -8
The reasonable pricing on this piece patently reaffirms Pressure Printing's price gouging ethos when similar projects are executed but with much more high profile artists. With all due respect, I could not disagree more. I have the piece and I love it, but the gouging is no less prevalent then with for instance, the audrey piece. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I love it, and with the easel back, it looks great on a table top or shelf, but its TINY, and I'd say right on par with the tax/gouge ratio pressure printing is know for, or should I say accused of. ----> That being said, I will say that Brad and the people at pressure printing put a lot of time and effort during all aspects, pre and post-production, to pull off these stunning pieces. For instance, the museum glass that was used for the audrey piece cost a small fortune. I know first hand because I run a framing shop and know the exact company that Brad got the glass from. Also, lots of trial and error/throw-aways to make sure the final result is perfect. People are often oblivious to these details and are quick to give him shyte. .02 That's perfectly fine that you disagree with my comment. That's what makes the world go round. This board would be a boring place if everyone agreed with each other. And I can totally agree with some of what you're saying. It's an undisputed fact that Pressure Printing produces some very high quality products. I understand a lot of effort, hours, and discarded test samples goes into their prints, and was not arguing against that fact. If you'll read my comment again, you'll see that it is direct at their inconsistent pricing structure for prints involving higher profile artists. Sure, comparing this release with, say for example, the the Ryden release is like comparing apples to oranges...a seriously nice, organic Gala apple at that. And sure 'Madanna and Karl' was almost twice the size as 'Bride of Stan', and was encased in a handmade wooden frame rather than a handcast resin frame. But ultimately, they come from the same tree (the prints, not the fruit...ok, bad analogy), and for the one to be nearly 15x!! more expensive is just a little excessive....to me, personally. Hell, Porterhouse managed to release the Tree of Life print that was double the size for 20% less. Again, sure there are some handmade differences there. But it still is indicative of something. And none of this takes into account the large amount of Proofs they tack onto editions, which is a personal pet peeve of mine across the board for all publishing houses, nor does it consider their suspect "enquire about proofs" offerings. I guess something that has always left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't seem to let it go, was the multiple attempts - not just one - by Brad to use his mailing list as a potential client list to off some ridiculous, almost insultingly priced (and I mean, like 20-30% above the highest recorded eBay sale ever) Porterhouse Ryden prints. I requested to be on that mailing list to be informed about Pressure Printing products, not for the owner of the company to offer me exorbitantly priced Ryden prints not even vaguely produced by PP from his personal collection. It just reeked of unethical, bad business to me; like if I had been cold called by some investment firm who obtained my portfolio in an illegitimate manner. Basically, it turned me off and I've viewed Pressure Printing through that same, tainted lens ever since. But that's neither here, nor there. Although it does somewhat explain my comments above quoted comments. |
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Post by mute on Aug 8, 2008 17:01:39 GMT -8
I guess something that has always left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't seem to let it go, was the multiple attempts - not just one - by Brad to use his mailing list as a potential client list to off some ridiculous, almost insultingly priced (and I mean, like 20-30% above the highest recorded eBay sale ever) Porterhouse Ryden prints. I requested to be on that mailing list to be informed about Pressure Printing products, not for the owner of the company to offer me exorbitantly priced Ryden prints not even vaguely produced by PP from his personal collection. It just reeked of unethical, bad business to me; like if I had been cold called by some investment firm who obtained my portfolio in an illegitimate manner. Basically, it turned me off and I've viewed Pressure Printing through that same, tainted lens ever since. But that's neither here, nor there. Although it does somewhat explain my comments above quoted comments. I also thought it was a little strange to do something like that. At first I liked it until I looked at the prices on the Ryden prints. I thought maybe he was fishing for suckers. Other than that I really don't care what he charges for the prints he makes, I'm more of a "if you don't like it, don't buy it" kind of person. I understand he puts out a good product and as long as he has the artists blessing than it's alright with me. But he also needs to look at this reasoning, why would you want to spend over thousand dollars on a print when you can put that money towards an artist's original work? |
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Post by lowpro on Aug 8, 2008 17:17:44 GMT -8
I guess something that has always left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't seem to let it go, was the multiple attempts - not just one - by Brad to use his mailing list as a potential client list to off some ridiculous, almost insultingly priced (and I mean, like 20-30% above the highest recorded eBay sale ever) Porterhouse Ryden prints. I requested to be on that mailing list to be informed about Pressure Printing products, not for the owner of the company to offer me exorbitantly priced Ryden prints not even vaguely produced by PP from his personal collection. It just reeked of unethical, bad business to me; like if I had been cold called by some investment firm who obtained my portfolio in an illegitimate manner. Basically, it turned me off and I've viewed Pressure Printing through that same, tainted lens ever since. But that's neither here, nor there. Although it does somewhat explain my comments above quoted comments. I also thought it was a little strange to do something like that. At first I liked it until I looked at the prices on the Ryden prints. I thought maybe he was fishing for suckers. Other than that I really don't care what he charges for the prints he makes, I'm more of a "if you don't like it, don't buy it" kind of person. I understand he puts out a good product and as long as he has the artists blessing than it's alright with me. But he also needs to look at this reasoning, why would you want to spend over thousand dollars on a print when you can put that money towards an artist's original work? Oh I hear ya. By no means am I complaining. Just making an observation and throwin' my two cents in. I don't buy his pieces, but that's more a result of exactly what you touch on at the end of your post. For the price (or a bit more), I'd rather have an original painting that an artists touched with his own hands. He has plenty of loyal clients and even the Ryden print sold out rather quickly, so apparently the market doesn't agree with me. Although a good 10-15% of that 40 print edition was bought on spec, as evident from the amount on eBay shortly thereafter that couldn't even fetch the original purchase price. Ultimately, you are right though. If people want to pay, so be it. And that's fine. But then what would be the point of a discussion board such as this, if everything was accepted at face value. |
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Post by sleepboy on Aug 8, 2008 18:40:35 GMT -8
yes, when i first saw lowpro's original post i did think he was trying to say that travis louie's print was reasonably priced compared to the others. also wanted to give a gentle reminder to keep on topic here  try this thread to discuss this topic. |
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 8, 2008 20:35:37 GMT -8
Well - our "Bride of Stan" arrived today (08.08.08). First off - I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed with the quality. The entire presentation of this edition is a masterful piece of craftsmenship. Now - to ice the cake, you won't believe what number we got   jIm |
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Post by richardtharbaugh on Aug 8, 2008 23:08:05 GMT -8
What he said. When I realized I'd be 'writing the check' to Hi-Fructose, though - I signed on to buy one. With all due respect, I could not disagree more. I have the piece and I love it, but the gouging is no less prevalent then with for instance, the audrey piece. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I love it, and with the easel back, it looks great on a table top or shelf, but its TINY, and I'd say right on par with the tax/gouge ratio pressure printing is know for, or should I say accused of. ----> That being said, I will say that Brad and the people at pressure printing put a lot of time and effort during all aspects, pre and post-production, to pull off these stunning pieces. For instance, the museum glass that was used for the audrey piece cost a small fortune. I know first hand because I run a framing shop and know the exact company that Brad got the glass from. Also, lots of trial and error/throw-aways to make sure the final result is perfect. People are often oblivious to these details and are quick to give him shyte. .02 That's perfectly fine that you disagree with my comment. That's what makes the world go round. This board would be a boring place if everyone agreed with each other. And I can totally agree with some of what you're saying. It's an undisputed fact that Pressure Printing produces some very high quality products. I understand a lot of effort, hours, and discarded test samples goes into their prints, and was not arguing against that fact. If you'll read my comment again, you'll see that it is direct at their inconsistent pricing structure for prints involving higher profile artists. Sure, comparing this release with, say for example, the the Ryden release is like comparing apples to oranges...a seriously nice, organic Gala apple at that. And sure 'Madanna and Karl' was almost twice the size as 'Bride of Stan', and was encased in a handmade wooden frame rather than a handcast resin frame. But ultimately, they come from the same tree (the prints, not the fruit...ok, bad analogy), and for the one to be nearly 15x!! more expensive is just a little excessive....to me, personally. Hell, Porterhouse managed to release the Tree of Life print that was double the size for 20% less. Again, sure there are some handmade differences there. But it still is indicative of something. And none of this takes into account the large amount of Proofs they tack onto editions, which is a personal pet peeve of mine across the board for all publishing houses, nor does it consider their suspect "enquire about proofs" offerings. I guess something that has always left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't seem to let it go, was the multiple attempts - not just one - by Brad to use his mailing list as a potential client list to off some ridiculous, almost insultingly priced (and I mean, like 20-30% above the highest recorded eBay sale ever) Porterhouse Ryden prints. I requested to be on that mailing list to be informed about Pressure Printing products, not for the owner of the company to offer me exorbitantly priced Ryden prints not even vaguely produced by PP from his personal collection. It just reeked of unethical, bad business to me; like if I had been cold called by some investment firm who obtained my portfolio in an illegitimate manner. Basically, it turned me off and I've viewed Pressure Printing through that same, tainted lens ever since. But that's neither here, nor there. Although it does somewhat explain my comments above quoted comments. |
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 11, 2008 21:11:06 GMT -8
Wanna see our new adopted family member? Let me introduce to you - "Bricktop..."   jIm |
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Post by masao626 on Aug 11, 2008 21:17:10 GMT -8
He's stunning jim.
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 11, 2008 21:27:21 GMT -8
Thanks Charity... He's a looker aint he? jIm |
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Post by sleepboy on Aug 13, 2008 19:04:10 GMT -8
Wanna see our new adopted family member? Let me introduce to you - "Bricktop..." jIm Love it! Nice score! |
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Post by PhotoGus on Aug 15, 2008 15:23:37 GMT -8
What is Bricktop's story?
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 15, 2008 16:05:40 GMT -8
What is Bricktop's story? We originally went to Roq La Rues previews to inquire about the Marion Peck piece to find it had already sold. I've always liked Travis' portraiture, especially the ones that almost required a second look to see the surreal. When I saw Bricktop, I was really drawn to it for that reason and something else but not sure at first look what it was. Then I realized he looked very much like my now deceased grampa when he was a younger man (obviously not as surrealistic - well, depending on when you caught him!) I asked Travis to send me his story since it hadn't yet been posted - even more uncanny similarities. My grampa was a big guy, a laborer, worked for the Unions, was a Golden Gloves boxer and all around champion for the small guy! Big tough guy - Big heart! Heres Bricktops story.... "He was real name was Yuri Medvedev. He was discovered working in a coal mine in Siberia sometime in the 1850's. Recruited by a traveling circus as their "Siberian Strongman", the 8' 9" colossus found his way to North America. He settled in Brooklyn, New York in 1905, finding work at Coney Island's Dreamland. When the park burned down in 1911, he found work in construction. He became so involved with the labor unions, that when his local union went on strike, he used his formidable appearance to frighten off strike-breakers. He acquired the nickname "Bricktop" because of his ability to survive so many attempts on his life by strike-breakers . . . specifically an attempt to pummel him with bricks (which only made him kind of angry). He'd been shot at, had a piano dropped on him, been pushed off the Brooklyn Bridge, and been hit by a truck (he sustained a small scar on his left knee from that incident)." jIm |
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Post by PhotoGus on Aug 19, 2008 14:45:13 GMT -8
^^^^^^^ Thanks for that. I can not wait to get my own Travis original. I would love to have "Stan" done up exactly like his bride. Same frame and all. How great would those two pieces look displayed next to each other. Pressure printing and Travis should get on that.
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Post by jimandtara on Aug 19, 2008 18:27:19 GMT -8
I would love to have "Stan" done up exactly like his bride. Same frame and all. How great would those two pieces look displayed next to each other. Pressure printing and Travis should get on that. I could not agree more! I have to say - "Bride of Stan" has really grown on me. I almost can't imagine my desk without it now - it really is a cool piece! jIm |
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Post by marcusslo on Aug 21, 2008 14:08:05 GMT -8
yeah i can confirm 1 and 2... not so sure about 3 though
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Post by mokaneshu on Aug 21, 2008 18:16:16 GMT -8
travis is the first artist ive talk to by phone , and he is an incredibly cool guy...(the first time we talked) he was walking outside and had to stop and save a frog that was hanging out in the middle of the road...so he is 1. talented 2. cool with helping others ---and 3. a hero to amphibians. He's also the most noteworthy biographer of sea monkeys that I know.  "Amelia Queen of the Sea Monkeys - She devoured the previous Queen, . . . Tentacles and all" "At 2 weeks of age, Amelia became the youngest queen of the sea monkeys. She was also the tallest queen. With a total height of 1 inch, she towers over her subjects. This image was captured moments before she devoured the previous queen"  "Ophelia, Another Queen of the Sea Monkeys - The last of the original Sea Monkey Monarchs (there were originally 3,450,999 of them)"  "Abbie became the 2,345,890th queen of the sea monkeys in 1905 At 23 days, her reign was the longest She eventually suffered the same fate as the rest of her line,... being devoured by the next queen,... whose reign was much shorter lasting only 47 seconds." |
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Post by sleepboy on Sept 5, 2008 10:34:01 GMT -8
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Post by doktor on Sept 5, 2008 11:37:55 GMT -8
Wonderful!
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Post by juggernut3 on Sept 6, 2008 12:57:15 GMT -8
Ran into Travis yesterday at the Camilla show at Levine. (as always a very cool guy!) He was nice enough to share with me that he creates his paintings based off the stories he writes...
I always thought that he made the paintings... then created the stories to go along with them. It's always cool to hear insight from the artists on their processes.
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Post by rizza79 on Sept 6, 2008 19:14:06 GMT -8
Some new pieces... The effect created on the top piece is pretty insane. |
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Post by themicawber on Sept 10, 2008 9:55:14 GMT -8
Some new pieces... The effect created on the top piece is pretty insane. I LOVE the bottom one, so many of Travis' pieces remind me of Brian Froud's creatures that I loved so much as a kid. I would definitely love to own one of Travis' pieces one day. |
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