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Post by sleepboy on Jun 23, 2011 22:21:21 GMT -8
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Post by swabie2424 on Jun 26, 2011 19:36:02 GMT -8
Had a great time at this show. Unfortunately I didn't win a single auction! Argh! I lost the Cate Rangel auction with just a minute to go apparently. Seems like everything I bid on, someone else wanted more.
But I'm really happy my bidding helped raise money for a great cause. Super show. Loads of great art.
I took a few pix - not a ton since I was out with my wife and others and was too busy drinking, talking and taking it all in. I'll upload some when I get a minute.
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Post by lowpro on Jun 26, 2011 22:32:29 GMT -8
Any idea if the Obey tables sold? And if so, how much? It's a somewhat laughable "art" product indicative of Shep's willingness to brand his name on nearly anything. But when looking through images of the 2009 show after it happened, I have to admit I dug this one..  The new ones looked pretty well constructed again. |
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Post by swabie2424 on Jun 27, 2011 7:21:46 GMT -8
Any idea if the Obey tables sold? And if so, how much? It's a somewhat laughable "art" product indicative of Shep's willingness to brand his name on nearly anything. The starting bid on the new ones was $4,000 each. I didn't see a bid on either of them around the middle of the bidding period. I didn't check back on them though to see if they sold. Sorry. |
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Post by tupacboy on Jun 27, 2011 10:11:29 GMT -8
none sold... starting price of 4k made them too high i think... they should have started lower to start a bidding war... so taht people get caught up in the moment
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Post by jujurocs on Jun 27, 2011 10:12:59 GMT -8
Didn't win anything this year. Paul Watso out bidded me on the Tamayo's piece. I almost had the Soto piece but the other bidder almost cried to me so I let her have it....I was kicking myself, 5 minutes later.
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Post by rhythmgtr5 on Jun 27, 2011 14:56:56 GMT -8
Could someone PM me how much the frizzell piece went for?
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Post by highbrow on Jun 27, 2011 16:03:44 GMT -8
I also am curious of the selling price of the Frizzell, so you could drop em a PM also please thank you
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Post by tupacboy on Jun 28, 2011 15:32:49 GMT -8
are we not allowed to post prices here?
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Post by svenman on Jun 28, 2011 16:07:21 GMT -8
Post away!
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Post by highbrow on Jun 28, 2011 17:24:32 GMT -8
please just sometimes some people prefer to not post prices if they know them, I guess an auction would not have an issue as it is not like a preview or something.. So yes please post.
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Post by epicfai on Jun 28, 2011 17:40:28 GMT -8
preview or not, feel free to post. price secrecy doesnt benefit collectors and i see no reason to maintain it even if certain galleries wish we would. personally i always find the "price on request" galleries remind me of mattress and car salesmen that just wont give you a straight response on price. just my .02 of course.
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Post by highbrow on Jun 28, 2011 19:06:36 GMT -8
epi I also agree I hate a gallery that has price on demand, why not list the price and save themselves time and hassel
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Post by svenman on Jun 28, 2011 23:21:49 GMT -8
i think it's not cool to post prices when previews are going out, but when a show is in the public domain - especially a public auction then there is no problem doing it...
i'd be interested to see the prices at this event for sure.
read an interesting article re charity auctions and the detrimental effect putting work in charity events it can have on artists markets recently. i'll see if i can find it...
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Post by epicfai on Jun 29, 2011 5:20:07 GMT -8
i think it's not cool to post prices when previews are going out, but when a show is in the public domain - especially a public auction then there is no problem doing it... i'd be interested to see the prices at this event for sure. read an interesting article re charity auctions and the detrimental effect putting work in charity events it can have on artists markets recently. i'll see if i can find it... sounds like an interesting read; please post if you find it. i honestly dont understand the price secrecy thing. im not sure who it benefits. i dont think it benefits the artist as much as perhaps the gallery and neither do i think it benefits the collector. in the case of a private transaction between two individuals i agree that its probably not cool to share financial details unless both parties agree to it, but i dont really see most gallery sales falling into this category. galleries are selling to the public after all. i think generally the practice is done partly as a marketing tactic to create an air of exclusivity as well as to enable the gallery to protect current and future prices. while some might argue that is in the artist's best interest i rather doubt it. from a long-term perspective i think transparent pricing benefits both artist and collector. |
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Post by epicfai on Jun 29, 2011 6:12:08 GMT -8
would be interesting to hear from the gallery owners as to why they choose whatever it is their particular gallery does. thinkspace sets a great standard for openness on current and past sales. i have a lot of respect for that. although i cant prove it, i suspect that open pricing benefits an artist's longevity by encouraging a degree of price stability and discouraging speculation.
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Post by virtu on Jun 29, 2011 10:51:14 GMT -8
I personally think most galleries that do not post prices don't want "egg on their face" if the show does not do well.
And for some evil galleries not posting prices helps them manipulate the market so not everyone is offered the same price.
More than once iv been in a Orange County or L.A. Gallery and inquired for a price just to be asked "What do you want to pay?" (Really!)
A few galleries i love that post prices would be Thinkspace, Roq La Rue, Copro, LeBasse, Cory Helford.
Noticed awhile back Levine stopped posting prices and marking pieces sold. (always curious if a show sold out opening night)
Galleries should post prices.
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Post by oldfartatplay on Jun 29, 2011 11:49:26 GMT -8
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Post by djsp on Jun 29, 2011 12:16:58 GMT -8
Mat Gleason...art sage..  |
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Post by svenman on Jun 29, 2011 14:13:44 GMT -8
yes that was the one farty. thanks!
i kind of resonate with what he says in some ways, but not in others.
there have been some examples of work going for an absolute song in charity auctions. wasn't there a parla piece that went for like $4k a couple of years back?
anyone have any info on how sales at this show went?
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Post by sleepboy on Jun 29, 2011 16:27:03 GMT -8
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Post by jujurocs on Jul 7, 2011 19:32:21 GMT -8
Chillin' with Gary Baseman & Paul Watson:   |
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