doktor
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Post by doktor on Aug 29, 2008 11:25:12 GMT -8
What about regular people who are simply known for their collection? What if a normal person with very good art taste and a large collection of important works bought some new artists work? does anyone think that would effect things? Lets say some random person who has a lot of important pieces and likes to share their work online with everyone... let's just say art message boards and blogs or whatever. Let's say they pick up some unknown new artists work and blog about it. Do you think that could effect that artist? I mean, the whole online community would know who that collector is because of their collection. But even though they may not be a celebrity, or known outside of this online bubble they've created, but there's a lot of people who watch their collection because of what they already have. Do any of you think that could effect an artist too? maybe I'm just thinking of the online hype machine that blogging can lead to.... which I believe was talked about in some other thread a while back. Oh yeah i think that would have an effect too. Influential collectors dont have to be celebrities.. Though they get a bit that way by being know as collectors i.e long Gone John... (If he is well know for something else it got past me..) |
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Post by junkyardsam on Aug 29, 2008 13:49:13 GMT -8
I guess throughout history certain people get into a sort of hero worship thing... (Like how people just love British "Royalty," etc.) In the US, celebrities get that worship...
(some) People view celebrities as larger than life, so when they choose art it must add, to the hero worship people, a sense of authenticity to the art.
AND you have people that buy art hoping it will go up in value, and it certainly fuels the speculation that the person's art will go up in value.
The weird thing about celebrities though... whether it's actors, politicians, or artists that you really look up to, etc. ---- you meet them and they're so HUMAN. hehe.
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fuzen
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Post by fuzen on Aug 29, 2008 21:21:25 GMT -8
This whole thread reminds me of a comment Madonna made years ago about admiring Frida Kahlo's artwork. As I recall there was extreme interest in her just by Madonna mentioning her name.
I do feel that having a celebrity purchasing artist's works add a certain luster to the artist's reputation, however, knowing a celebrity is buying so and so's work doesn't really influence how I feel about the art in general. More of a footnote regarding their taste.
Also, for the limited collector, like me, who has a budget, the celebrity interest just makes it more difficult to acquire pieces but that's part of the game.
Hells it's not even the celebrities I should worry about its everyone in this board. Hahaha!
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Post by reactor88 on Sept 14, 2008 18:22:58 GMT -8
I was just down at the Laguna Art Museum today (for the Jeff Soto book signing) and noticed that the Sylvia Ji painting on display for the Juxtapoz Retinal Delights show is owned by Patricia Arquette as well.
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Post by sleepboy on Feb 21, 2009 10:58:09 GMT -8
Dennis Hopper got a Warhol for $75? Wow, I wonder what he was talking about.... I can't believe an OG??? Aside from a property, what's the most expensive thing you've bought?
I don't spend a lot. Most of my art collection I got by trading it or through knowing the artist. I got Andy Warhol's first soup can painting for $75. I lost it to my first wife. |
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Post by oldfartatplay on Feb 21, 2009 14:13:14 GMT -8
Dennis Hopper got a Warhol for $75? Wow, I wonder what he was talking about.... I can't believe an OG??? Aside from a property, what's the most expensive thing you've bought?
I don't spend a lot. Most of my art collection I got by trading it or through knowing the artist. I got Andy Warhol's first soup can painting for $75. I lost it to my first wife. That was back in 1962, nobody knew who Warhol was. Look here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell's_Soup_Cans about a 3rd the way down under "The premiere" Says they sold for $100 a pop  |
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Post by mose on Feb 21, 2009 16:16:39 GMT -8
it was D*Face that got flamed to hell for his dealings with Christina Aguilera and her husband, the details of which were made very public when his website/email were hacked. |
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Post by solar77 on Feb 23, 2009 7:04:04 GMT -8
Dennis Hopper got a Warhol for $75? Wow, I wonder what he was talking about.... I can't believe an OG??? Aside from a property, what's the most expensive thing you've bought?
I don't spend a lot. Most of my art collection I got by trading it or through knowing the artist. I got Andy Warhol's first soup can painting for $75. I lost it to my first wife. That was back in 1962, nobody knew who Warhol was. Look here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell's_Soup_Cans about a 3rd the way down under "The premiere" Says they sold for $100 a pop He didn't lose one from the first show to his ex wife. The original soup cans were repurchased by the gallery not long after the exhibit and held as a set until they went to MoMA. |
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Post by sleepboy on Feb 25, 2009 9:40:42 GMT -8
Start at the 8 min mark. Sounds like she's a big Kathie Olivas fan.
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Post by commandax on Mar 9, 2009 21:12:54 GMT -8
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Post by sebreg on Mar 10, 2009 10:05:04 GMT -8
Thanks, that's an interesting article. |
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Post by sleepboy on Apr 15, 2009 23:09:28 GMT -8
 Thought I would add this here... Doogie! |
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Post by hector23 on Apr 16, 2009 16:52:48 GMT -8
doogie is sooo cool
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Post by commandax on May 22, 2009 20:37:12 GMT -8
Interesting profile of Ai Weiwei, a Chinese artist who collects cultural artifacts and sometimes makes them into art.
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Post by commandax on Jun 11, 2009 22:47:32 GMT -8
Fascinating story in the New York Times about a dentist whose family was surprised by his extensive, valuable art collection upon his death. Instructed by a notary executing a will, the auctioneer Jean-Pierre Osenat went in January to an apartment in a modestly prosperous neighborhood of the 15th arrondissement of Paris to draw up an inventory for a sale of the contents to pay inheritance taxes.
In the apartment, he found the typical accouterments of a middle-class home: except that “on the walls hung works by classic painters like Pierre Bonnard and Maurice de Vlaminck, beside very traditional furniture,” Mr. Osenat said.
And that was just a starter. When he descended into the basement, Mr. Osenat discovered, neatly stacked in their original packaging and concealed under dusty piles of discarded rags, some 20 works by master painters of the postwar era.
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“When Dr. B started buying art, the Abstract Expressionist and Lyrical Abstraction painters were just emerging in Paris,” Mr. Osenat said. “He bought these works at the dealer’s behest when the artists were mostly unknown.”
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Post by commandax on Jun 11, 2009 22:56:48 GMT -8
For those who think you need to be rich to collect great art, I present Herb and Dorothy Vogel, a post-office mail sorter and a librarian – two of the greatest collectors of our time. Via the Telegraph: The Vogels have been collecting voraciously since the early 1960s, and their passion has earned them an unlikely place alongside the Rothschilds, Gettys and Rockefellers in a recent book: James Stourton's Great Collectors of Our Time. For most of his working life, Herb, the son of a tailor, sorted mail at the central post office in Manhattan; Dorothy, the daughter of a stationer, was a librarian in Brooklyn Heights. They had no children, and chose to live frugally on her salary, so that they could spend his on art.
In 1992, after Dorothy retired, the Vogels donated their ever-expanding collection to the National Museum of Art, in Washington, because they had run out of space for it. 'We're not ones to throw things out,' says Dorothy, glancing around, 'and we couldn't fit another toothpick in.' According to Chuck Close, a friend of the couple who is represented in their collection, the Vogels had so much art stuffed under their bed that it had risen off the floor.
The museum had no idea of the extent of the Vogels' hoardings. It took three months and five 40ft lorries to pack up and remove more than 2,500 pieces from their tiny apartment: priceless work by Sol LeWitt, Donald Judd, Carl Andre, Richard Long, Julian Schnabel, Jeff Koons, and Richard Tuttle, among others.It has occurred to me more than once that someday they will find my dessicated body crushed under a pile of Kelly Vivancos. They will come looking for me when I don't show up for the latest Thinkspace show. |
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Post by travislouie on Jun 12, 2009 4:38:28 GMT -8
heh heh
but the cats will still be alive
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Post by commandax on Jun 12, 2009 9:11:53 GMT -8
Well, that's the most important thing. Whatever I can do, you know.
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Post by ally on Jun 24, 2009 22:03:21 GMT -8
jeannie lynn paske had 4 pieces in my latest curated show, "swoon" at black maria gallery... last week, benji madden rolled up and bought them all. though im not a good charlotte fan, im happy that he bought from an unknown artist and from the heart. he apparently was intrigued enough by the piece pictured, that he drove from the hills to my show to see it in person, liked her work so much, he put down the black card, bam, sold. (the photos did not do justice to the gold flecked graphite layered texture of her piece) paparazzi captured the moment, lol flea from the red hot chili peppers was also at the show, though he didnt purchase. i hope to get a show together with him and john frusciante soon....  |
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Post by cluttergeoff on Jun 25, 2009 1:07:32 GMT -8
Ally you may know better than me, but I read that Benji and his brother both have pretty big art collections - Ledebtter, Chueh etc. Nice to see him buy a piece that's not by a 'name'...way too much of that in London of people at the main shows snapping up pieces purely because they heard they were a big deal.
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Post by ally on Jun 25, 2009 11:23:48 GMT -8
Ally you may know better than me, but I read that Benji and his brother both have pretty big art collections - Ledebtter, Chueh etc. Nice to see him buy a piece that's not by a 'name'...way too much of that in London of people at the main shows snapping up pieces purely because they heard they were a big deal. yes, he has pretty nice ryden tattoos as well. i think his chueh collection was profiled on mtv cribs.... waaay too much of that here too! bottom line, buy from your gut-feeling, heart & soul... dont buy because of hype or investment! you cant take it with you, so enjoy it while you are here... |
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Post by virtu on Jun 25, 2009 12:32:56 GMT -8
Ally you may know better than me, but I read that Benji and his brother both have pretty big art collections - Ledebtter, Chueh etc. Nice to see him buy a piece that's not by a 'name'...way too much of that in London of people at the main shows snapping up pieces purely because they heard they were a big deal. yes, he has pretty nice ryden tattoos as well. i think his chueh collection was profiled on mtv cribs.... waaay too much of that here too! bottom line, buy from your gut-feeling, heart & soul... dont buy because of hype or investment! you cant take it with you, so enjoy it while you are here... Well said Ally ;D |
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Post by muschelschubser on Jun 25, 2009 13:08:26 GMT -8
yes, he has pretty nice ryden tattoos as well. i think his chueh collection was profiled on mtv cribs.... waaay too much of that here too! bottom line, buy from your gut-feeling, heart & soul... dont buy because of hype or investment! you cant take it with you, so enjoy it while you are here... Well said Ally ;D totally agree! |
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Post by mike on Jul 10, 2009 14:17:44 GMT -8
jeannie lynn paske had 4 pieces in my latest curated show, "swoon" at black maria gallery... last week, benji madden rolled up and bought them all. though im not a good charlotte fan, im happy that he bought from an unknown artist and from the heart. he apparently was intrigued enough by the piece pictured, that he drove from the hills to my show to see it in person, liked her work so much, he put down the black card, bam, sold. (the photos did not do justice to the gold flecked graphite layered texture of her piece) paparazzi captured the moment, lol flea from the red hot chili peppers was also at the show, though he didnt purchase. i hope to get a show together with him and john frusciante soon.... I'm keen to track down a piece by Jeannie Lynn Paske as I've loved the artwork she made for eluvium. |
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Post by commandax on Jul 27, 2009 19:50:30 GMT -8
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