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Post by sleepboy on Mar 21, 2008 22:36:27 GMT -8
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Post by sybilm on Mar 21, 2008 23:42:27 GMT -8
I was just looking at some of her pieces like a minute ago..crazy! I would love to get one pretty soon!
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Post by masao626 on Mar 22, 2008 8:10:13 GMT -8
i want this painting.
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Post by ck on Mar 22, 2008 8:19:01 GMT -8
i loved my glow worm!
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Post by sleepboy on Mar 22, 2008 9:11:01 GMT -8
yah, it's for the toy show at g1988 coming up, i think you are supposed to paint about toys from childhood. might be the same show as the "childhood" themed show that allison sommers was painting for but not sure. |
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Post by ck on Mar 22, 2008 11:58:46 GMT -8
man, G1988 really knows how to cash in on shows with nostalgia.
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Post by tisza2cute on Mar 22, 2008 14:39:34 GMT -8
On G1988's blog, there's a picture of another piece from this show, by Matt Dangler, a Care Bear- Bedtime Bear to be specific.  Camilla did another piece for this show, too. I can hardly wait to see what it'll be (I'm hoping for Strawberry Shortcake or a Popple, lol)... Being a child in the '80s was pretty good after all.  |
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Post by mattlock on Mar 25, 2008 17:22:34 GMT -8
I was just in g1988 today and saw this piece as well as her other one. They are both great! She has a load of talent.
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Post by mute on Apr 2, 2008 6:52:48 GMT -8
Camilla did another piece for this show, too. I can hardly wait to see what it'll be (I'm hoping for Strawberry Shortcake or a Popple, lol)... Being a child in the '80s was pretty good after all.  "The Sorceress", I like it. |
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Post by ck on Apr 2, 2008 8:21:17 GMT -8
oooh! i like that one too. very nice!
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Post by sleepboy on Jun 19, 2008 7:28:39 GMT -8
Here's the newest one from her blog that's she's working on. There are some nice progress pics there. |
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Post by benvan on Jun 19, 2008 7:42:46 GMT -8
Never been a huge fan of the "sort of anime girl content", however, her colors are really amazing, particularily "The Sorceress". The ability to use strong colors and contrasts like she does, and have it add to concept of the painting is a really tough thing. Another that seems to do that really well is Nathan Ota.
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Post by rhinomilk on Jul 9, 2008 9:45:39 GMT -8
hope the missing ones turn up...
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Post by marcusslo on Jul 9, 2008 9:47:29 GMT -8
pretty crazy that so many are missing
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Post by sleepboy on Jul 10, 2008 21:14:45 GMT -8
pretty crazy that so many are missing probably all the bad karma generated by her rep. that guy is so annoying. |
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Post by entropy on Jul 12, 2008 15:57:41 GMT -8
pretty crazy that so many are missing probably all the bad karma generated by her rep. that guy is so annoying. Sleepboy, that is funny. I wouldn't doubt that for a second. I only own one Camilla painting and fortunately didn't have to deal with her "rep" - but I did have to deal with a snotty little gallery to get my Camilla painting. Not sure which would have been worse. I didn't know she had a rep... I always just thought she was a very ambitious do-it-yourselfer. I guess her rep can consider himself some hotshot for getting her the licensing deal with Dark Horse and getting her a solo show at Copro Nason. So do most artists have a "rep"? I know some artists do and I cringe each time an artist mentions they have one or refers me to one... 'cause I'd rather not deal with their "superstar agent". Any attempt at serious discussion will probably get a return reply from them that goes like this: "Talk to the hand". Camilla seems really cool though. I like a lot of her work. Unfortunately the color palette on many of them (pinks, yellows, soft blues, etc) just won't fit in with my collection. And some of the pieces are too "cute". But I'm always curious to see what she comes up with. Too bad about the missing paintings. That looks like maybe eight weeks of work down the drain. |
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Post by sleepboy on Dec 5, 2008 8:30:25 GMT -8
So now that she's signed exclusively to Opera, does that mean she can't show anywhere else. You think they will be able to have their clientele support her? Or will she go the way of Earley... I wonder if those pieces there really sold for that much or there were "substantial" discounts.
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Post by masao626 on Dec 5, 2008 8:48:32 GMT -8
Or will she go the way of Earley... I wonder if those pieces there really sold for that much or there were "substantial" discounts. can you elaborate on this statement, sleep? I'm curious... |
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Post by sleepboy on Dec 5, 2008 9:13:22 GMT -8
Well, yes I think it's great for Camilla if she becomes blue chip because everyone should be able to maximize their potential and I definitely love her work (I have I think like 4 pieces from her). Hopefully Opera will be able to convince their clientele to support her in the long run because I'm definitely not laying the money they want for another Camilla at this point.
Well, I think we all know that what a piece is listed for is not necessarily what it sells for at galleries but of course they don't go back and mark it down to the price it sold. Let's just say some galleries are more aggressive with this "gamesmanship." Once an artist reaches a certain price point, they can't really lower their prices. I noticed Lori Earley's last show didn't sell that well at Levine after she was shown at Opera when she used to sellout I believe - but I didn't really pay attention to stuff like this back in the day so maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by masao626 on Dec 5, 2008 9:16:44 GMT -8
ah gotcha - i thought there was some solid leak of shady doings. i don't know a thing about Opera besides the fact that during Lori's show, they attempted to sell me the 'cocktail hour' print for $1500 (this was before Lori had it on her site).
on the camilla front, i've always been interested in her work but could never justify the price.
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Post by evilchoy on Dec 5, 2008 15:00:37 GMT -8
Hey guys I hem and hawed about posting this because I was concerned about the stuff in the Ebay post and also the information that was being past around ..... so I wrote this last night and then sat on it till now since it was brought up:
I am trying not to be judgmental but I was concerned about the ebay post since there were some inaccuracies, and please somebody tell me if my information is wrong but in september Camilla D'Errico was part of a group show called Young Blood for the opera gallery with Kathy
Olivas, Brandt Peter and 6 to 8 other artist. Each of her pieces that were available, there were four and were amazing, were all priced at 9,000. Each piece was also considerably bigger than she has done in the recent past and also each one was framed by the gallery in an
amazing frame but these were not her biggest to date. They were mostly 22"x36" and one of them was 18x36.
Also I heard, and this is a total rumor that her agent had lined up those buys and that some may have gotten a discount, from him not the gallery, hence the price tag you had them at 5 to 6,500 sounds about right but with added framing and bigger sizes and the opera gallery
price bump well within her present range. Some may ask why but this was probably done to stack the deck for her career. It is like having a garage band bribe all of their friends to come to a show if an label is going to come see them is it wrong no but doesn't mean you can believe the hype.
Her most recent "show" was with ad hoc and anthony correct me if I am wrong but the 12x24 pieces were being sold for 1800. There is a possibility that she may be working with opera more in the future since all of her pieces sold way before the night of the preview, when
I got there they were the only ones with a red dot on them. So your price should be dead on in 2010 when her 2009 obligations are over and she is showing exclusively at opera. For now an 24x8 inch piece from an 2008 thinkspace show should be more along the lines of 1600.
I am happy for her but it shouldn't be a good bye as much as we pat ourselves for our success we should congratulate those who grow from our sphere into what some considered the big leagues. To me this is almost like seeing pearl jam open up for smashing pumpkins who open up for the red hot chili peppers (one of the my first concerts) and then a year later not be able to get a ticket to see pearl jam cause the show sold out in 25 seconds, it is time for camilla to play in the concert halls. But my opinion is that she may not be able to fill all the seats....only time will tell.
My only major beef was the fact that all the artist did an amazing job on the pieces for the opera gallery and i question that if they only did a better, more detailed job because it was opera? Why should i support you when you do the little guys? Should I save my pennies and just buy the piece you do for the big guys? Each of the artist piece were not a drastic change of style but they were much tighter, more detailed and bigger with an obnoxious price tag. Brandt was the only one that didn't do anything different he actually gave them a painting that did not sell at the sf 1988. To him I tip my hat!
I am not sure about Brandt and Kathie signing since Brandt just signed to 1988 a few months ago but I might be wrong.
sorry for the rambling
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Post by virtu on Dec 5, 2008 16:15:22 GMT -8
Sas's pieces for her Solo Opera Show made my jaw drop, her tighest and lushest images ever.
Then I saw her last pieces for Copro and thought they were rushed and not her best work. (far from it)
Allot of the work sold thru Opera is pre sold/commissions and many of their buyers will be celebrity or ultra rich people who invite the artist into their circle.
The artist is inspired to do their best work for these collectors since it will be seen by all of their rich friends thus the artist market expands into important Blue Chip Collections building demand.
So i do think they do better work and try harder for Opera. (wouldn't you)
Also tripling the artist income helps.
Robert Williams is now exclusively with the Tony Shafrazi Gallery in New York.
Was not sure about Olivas & Peters signing with them, someone just mentioned it in passing as a maybe?
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Post by evilchoy on Dec 5, 2008 16:45:23 GMT -8
I hear you Virtu but I disagree, sorry I am not ultra-rich or a celebrity who will give you a few bucks treat you like an animal on display at the zoo and once the newness is over move on to the next new baby animal. Being the new baby Knut isn't all that's cracked up to be, I wonder if this is what happened to Lori since the quality of her work didn't go down.
Are they inspired, or are they tempted by fame, money, and false prestige. Thus for me tainting the artwork. I am not naive and do understand that artist deserve to be paid but not manipulated and taking advantage of. Does opera do that? I don't know what I do know is that Opera is more business than gallery and if you can't dance my little russian bear and bring in the money, they let you sell it to a "lesser gallery" or drop you..... I guess I will continue to support the new fresh blood and the argument can be made that I am only saying this because I can't afford the opera price, but I choose to believe that I rather help those young artist that still believe that they are creating something from their heart, showing me a piece of their soul versus the latter which is just trying to get the most out of my pockets.
I don't regret buying the pieces from artist that go on to the blue chip galleries but find that if an artist is more inspired by greed, paris hilton, and hoity toity parties vs those who are inspired to show me a piece of their soul, to push the boundaries of their creativity, and to inspire other with their will leave a bad taste in my mouth. We have seen this before many of these end up turning their art into a brand and running factory like business and making the work feel sterile. Koon, Hirst, Kincade(I make myself laugh), Britto and many more just churn these soulless pieces out. If that is the case they should just call themselves illustrators(this is a joke btw).
For the record I just want to say that I don't know or think that any of the artist we have been talking about and are mentioned in our posts aren't doing this for the later reason, but good for them for getting paid and doing what they love.
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Post by virtu on Dec 5, 2008 17:49:36 GMT -8
You forgot Kostabi & Godard for soulless art.
I always support new talent and find it sad to see favorite artist go to High Brow Galleries and pretty much leave the smaller galleries and their original supporters/collectors behind.
Never cared much why they leave it's just sad to see them go.
It's good for the artist to move up in the world and for the collectors who were lucky enough to purchase when the artist was affordable but your right about them being used up sometimes then cast away by unscrupulous galleries/agents/reps/publishers.
I can't afford Opera prices myself and always look for new talent that my collectors can afford.
We sell artworks between $100 - $2500 generally.
Funny you mention Britto since Opera had a show for him this year or last. (such trendy crap)
Sorry this tread has gotten off topic.
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Post by evilchoy on Dec 5, 2008 17:53:39 GMT -8
in my past life i used do work for many soulless artist...britto was one of them....great guy to hang with but doesn't trust anybody.
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