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Post by sleepboy on Oct 23, 2012 9:28:18 GMT -8
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Post by droow2 on Oct 23, 2012 12:42:09 GMT -8
Money talks. The end.
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Post by rizza79 on Oct 23, 2012 15:12:26 GMT -8
did you think the that he would voted off or do you think he should be voted off? I would like to think that the arts community in general is an overall open minded group of people and would not ostracise a patron and productive member of the community for an error in judgment. |
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Post by avert on Oct 23, 2012 16:27:05 GMT -8
the man did what all top level athletes did (and possibly still do) ..... he used all tools at his hands to reach his goals of winning. this can't come as a shock to everyone. what was it, something like 19 of the top 20 riders in the tours he won were eventually found to have doped? i say, "what-ever!!"
his work with cancer, the arts, and his current life have little to do with all this. he's earned his spot on the board of the aspen museum.
what if we fired all board members when we have found out they lied in the past?
lance is ok with me.
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Post by iamthetoe on Oct 23, 2012 19:17:21 GMT -8
I was an Armstrong supporter until I started reading quote after quote that looked something like this: "A team assistant named Emma O'Reilly, who claimed to have transported drugs for U.S. Postal, was so maligned by Armstrong's camp that she became nearly bankrupt. The same thing happened to Mike Anderson, a former personal assistant to Armstrong, who sought refuge by moving from Austin to New Zealand"  www.sportsonearth.com/article/39875782Funny, my first thought was Michael Corleone who is similarly referenced in this article... |
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Post by sleepboy on Oct 23, 2012 20:29:53 GMT -8
did you think the that he would voted off or do you think he should be voted off? I would like to think that the arts community in general is an overall open minded group of people and would not ostracise a patron and productive member of the community for an error in judgment. I'm not sure that I would have voted him off as his involvement with art seems to be completely separate. But, I can see how some people would have a problem with it. |
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Post by droow2 on Oct 24, 2012 3:52:05 GMT -8
what if we fired all board members when we have found out they lied in the past? Then perhaps future members of boards would be less inclined to lie cheat and steal in the future and eventually the world might be a better run place?! |
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Post by devours on Oct 24, 2012 8:09:01 GMT -8
I would definitely vote him off. His profession and personal character should be viewed the same. He lacked courage to compete on an even playing field. The overwhelming evidence that he cheated is disgusting. The small pittance he gave back to cancer research while still amassing 100 million, does not endear him to me at all. Other professional athletes have done great things without corrupting their sport and hurting those around him. Any company tied to Armstrong is just going to suffer and perpetuate the idea of justification.
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Post by avert on Oct 24, 2012 9:16:06 GMT -8
He lacked courage to compete on an even playing field. when everyone your racing against is doping, where's the "even playing field"....? not that i condone doping. or lying. or cheating. or feel at all bad that he's in a shit storm right now. it's just that i see his cancer fundraising as so much more important than all this. cancer is no joke. and if his personal drama is equated with a lacking in funding research for something that is so needed, then i'll be even more sad. |
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Post by dotdot on Oct 24, 2012 11:33:50 GMT -8
the less he say's the more he ... will feel the pressure.
sooner or later he'll speak.
he's been through a lot - don't get me wrong.
he is and [ may |will ] remain an icon.
however ... he has a story to tell .. even if it's not going to go down well with... a lot of people.
The downfall of an icon .. is something we all find hard to deal with... (those of you in the us count yourselves.. lucky... you don't know who Jimmy S is/was... ).
as for Aspen.. well don't count of that situation for long... you can only be out of touch for so long.
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Post by origo on Oct 30, 2012 3:29:16 GMT -8
I would definetely have voted him off. He got in there because of his profession in the first place, and since his whole carrer is based on a lie the decision should have been different imo.
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