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Post by volvic on Oct 22, 2013 13:59:26 GMT -8
The draw was won by davids daughter. (so yeah, same thing, if not worse!) The prize was a trip to colombia with oscar.
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Post by afroken on Oct 22, 2013 14:38:17 GMT -8
They sorted it. Extract from an email i received this evening:
With regards to any confusion on the night about the winners, I hope the following helps clarify the situation:
In second place was ticket number 55 belonging to XXXXXX, the prize for which is 'a memory trip to Mexico'. This will be a visual record of an all expenses paid trip to a luxury resort in Mexico, for Ramón, the Colombian lottery ticket seller from La Paila in Murillo’s film currently showing at the SLG.
The first prize, awarded to ticket number 92 belonging to XXXXXXX, is a 'memory trip to Colombia', comprising postcards, images and other memorabilia compiled by Oscar Murillo. As you were there on the night, you will know that ticket number 53, belonging to David Zwirner, was also picked out as the winner when it transpired that the owner of number 92 was not in the room. David has since requested that the winning ticket go back to the original winning number of 92 as he had purchased a ticket knowing this was a fundraising exercise for the South London Gallery.
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Post by ricosg11 on Oct 22, 2013 14:51:33 GMT -8
i suppose if zwirner bought 50 tickets he would have a strong chance at winning
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Post by afroken on Oct 22, 2013 14:55:44 GMT -8
Worth pointing out that a 'memory trip' isn't an actual trip (although I think everyone assumed it was on the night) but rather the paraphernalia collected by Murillo on a trip so, depending on how it's presented, it's a prize with artistic merit based on the artist's practice. Not a bad prize. If it's just a shoe box full of postcards and junk then I'll retract that statement!
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Post by artladval on Oct 22, 2013 15:06:11 GMT -8
If it's just a shoe box full of postcards and junk then I'll retract that statement! Do you know how psyched I'd be if I received one of those from Mike Kelley?! |
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Post by artcubed on Oct 30, 2013 14:37:53 GMT -8
The ICA had 11 for sale, I believe. I was too late, and would be interested in buying one of these.... There's one on Paddle8 should you be interested, although as with a lot of Paddle8 lots, it is flying and already up to $3,900 after a couple of hours: paddle8.com/work/oscar-murillo/23256-untitled |
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Post by paulypaul on Nov 1, 2013 0:08:19 GMT -8
The ICA had 11 for sale, I believe. I was too late, and would be interested in buying one of these.... There's one on Paddle8 should you be interested, although as with a lot of Paddle8 lots, it is flying and already up to $3,900 after a couple of hours: paddle8.com/work/oscar-murillo/23256-untitledOk, the whole "Madame, it took me a lifetime" quote attributed to Picasso may be apocryphal, but is relevant to his work, life, career. What I do not understand is how/why artist that lack provenance and do not (yet) demonstrate progression make ten times estimates and how people are falling over themselves to own them. I'm not as widely read/informed of the art world as many of you but where do the likes of Nick Darmstaedter/Lucian Smith/Oscar Murillo come from? They're little more than children. They're not part of a movement, like the YBAs, each appears to have arrived singly. They're, in the traditional sense, not aesthetically delighting. They're reductionist, but aren't a response to something as minimalism was, as pop was, but appear to be trying to mine a similar vein, ersatz if you will... I live in the north east and go to the graduate shows near me each year and, in the last five years, can only remember three artists that I thought were worth a second look. What am I missing? I would have walked right past these artists. Perhaps I'm getting old. Perhaps they are Alien Sex Fiend, Jim Thirlwell/Foetus, Ministry equivalents. Perhaps you have to get them when you are 18, or they are lost to you for ever. Niche, wealthy niche. FWIW, I have a Murrillo ICA menu, which I bought speculatively. Did I just answer my own question...? |
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Post by ricosg11 on Nov 1, 2013 5:03:43 GMT -8
Id say the answer to your question is the internet. People are consuming faster than ever, blah blah. It makes me want to vomit, but here I am contributing to the problem. That, and a bunch of rich people are playing games with their money.
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Post by wimbledongreen on Nov 1, 2013 8:22:01 GMT -8
There are definitely parts of the art market where the fix is in. Trouble is with the internet many people who aren't part of the fix are able to catch glimpses of the high rising prices. A few people might have gotten lucky and have bought a Murillo before the players stepped in, and woe to those who bought one of his lottery tickets. But once the high-profile collectors step in 99% of us will be on the sidelines as spectators. For me the real question on Murillo is the art. Is this really the next Basquiat or next important artist? For my eyes no but maybe in twenty years he'll have a mid-career retrospective at the Whitney.!?
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Post by dotdot on Nov 9, 2013 11:03:45 GMT -8
Ok, the whole "Madame, it took me a lifetime" quote attributed to Picasso may be apocryphal, but is relevant to his work, life, career. What I do not understand is how/why artist that lack provenance and do not (yet) demonstrate progression make ten times estimates and how people are falling over themselves to own them. I'm not as widely read/informed of the art world as many of you but where do the likes of Nick Darmstaedter/Lucian Smith/Oscar Murillo come from? They're little more than children. They're not part of a movement, like the YBAs, each appears to have arrived singly. They're, in the traditional sense, not aesthetically delighting. They're reductionist, but aren't a response to something as minimalism was, as pop was, but appear to be trying to mine a similar vein, ersatz if you will... I live in the north east and go to the graduate shows near me each year and, in the last five years, can only remember three artists that I thought were worth a second look. What am I missing? I would have walked right past these artists. Perhaps I'm getting old. Perhaps they are Alien Sex Fiend, Jim Thirlwell/Foetus, Ministry equivalents. Perhaps you have to get them when you are 18, or they are lost to you for ever. Niche, wealthy niche. FWIW, I have a Murrillo ICA menu, which I bought speculatively. Did I just answer my own question...? fwiw - and yeah it takes me a while to come back to interesting posts. I get "om" probably as much as the next person.. which is very close to zero... for me these folks are on a concept wavelength which my radio won't be picking up in the near future. alas.. i care not a jot. As for (your comment including the likes.. of) Jim Thirlwell .. now there is one talented chap - had it .. lost it .. now has something again. unlike Matt Johnson.. who seems to have vanished... (catastrophic) .. |
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Post by mose on Nov 9, 2013 11:34:40 GMT -8
The quality of this thread has jumped considerably with JG Thirlwell references. I've seen Foetus about 10 times. One of the highlights was, back around 1996 or so, catching him as he fell off stage drunk and him finishing, I believe it was 'Take it Outside Godboy', singing into my chest before I picked him up and put him back on stage.
IMO, Thirlwell is up there with Prince for pure musical talent.
Side note, the Murillo work at both Christies and Phillips is 'meh' and both have lines out the door of people ready to consign work.
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Post by herzog on Jan 6, 2014 4:36:45 GMT -8
Oscar Murillo has a huge show coming up at The Mistake Room in LA. This is going to be a huge show. Editions were available, but pre sold to members of the Mistake Room.
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Post by fried on Jan 9, 2014 4:12:57 GMT -8
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Post by WillNyc on Jan 9, 2014 8:59:10 GMT -8
they are Photoshopped in I believe |
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Post by fried on Jan 9, 2014 9:57:43 GMT -8
in that case the blog really isnt worth checking out. Makes sense but so disappointing
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Post by sleepboy on Jan 14, 2014 19:32:51 GMT -8
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Post by herzog on Jan 18, 2014 2:52:51 GMT -8
Oscars work seems to have dried up at auction quite rapidly. Anyway some news from the mistake room.
Los Angeles’s newest contemporary art institution, the Mistake Room, is slated to open its freshly refurbished warehouse space to the public on Saturday, and it couldn’t have chosen a hotter artist for its inaugural show. Colombia-born, London-based sensation Oscar Murillo will unveil his first solo show at a U.S. institution, “Distribution Center,” for which he and a team of local day laborers and Tijuana-based construction and carpentry workers created a series of objects and installations using the 4,500-square-space.
The artworks, which range from polished, finely crafted, and completed works to pieces that look very roughly put together and unfinished, were assembled from Murillo’s trademark assortment of components — ie. scraps of metal and wood, paper, and canvas. They will be complemented by large-scale video projections documenting various acts of physical labor being carried out by people and machines.
Capping the exhibition, which is being curated by Mistake Room director and chief curator Cesar Garcia, will be a lottery for which just 50 tickets will be sold. Toward the end of the show three winners will be selected at random, and each one will receive an original artwork that Murillo will create on a T-shirt.
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Post by mose on Jan 18, 2014 5:33:24 GMT -8
Oscars work seems to have dried up at auction quite rapidly. Anyway some news from the mistake room. Weird. I've talked to several auction-house folk who have indicated that they have a waiting list of people looking to consign Murillo work. Getting calls daily from people looking to cash in/cash out. Weird also, in that there were 2 Murillo works just last month in the Under the Influence auction at Phillips, with Phillips alone having had 4 Murillo works in November(Christies had 3) and there have been no major contemporary auctions since. Also, the catalogs for February are not published yet. I don't see this 'drying up' at all. |
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Post by artcubed on Jan 18, 2014 6:52:09 GMT -8
Oscars work seems to have dried up at auction quite rapidly. Anyway some news from the mistake room. Weird. I've talked to several auction-house folk who have indicated that they have a waiting list of people looking to consign Murillo work. Getting calls daily from people looking to cash in/cash out. Weird also, in that there were 2 Murillo works just last month in the Under the Influence auction at Phillips, with Phillips alone having had 4 Murillo works in November(Christies had 3) and there have been no major contemporary auctions since. Also, the catalogs for February are not published yet. I don't see this 'drying up' at all. I agree with this; there hasn't been a drying up of works at auction as yet. I've also heard that there is a long waiting list of people ready/ wanting to consign. If you bought a couple canvasses for $5,000 each a few years ago and can now make $500,000 then I can see why as well! L |
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Post by herzog on Jan 18, 2014 7:53:04 GMT -8
Interesting. I've heard the opposite though. Waiting list or not plenty of demand privately.
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Post by mose on Jan 20, 2014 17:21:57 GMT -8
Christie's has one Murillo in the upcoming London evening sale and 3 in the day sale.
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Post by mose on Jan 21, 2014 9:44:05 GMT -8
Lol. Nothing is more fun than getting 'Oh, we couldn't possibly sell to you, we are looking to place these pieces,' only to see them at auction a few months later.
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Post by herzog on Jan 21, 2014 9:50:10 GMT -8
Yep. Three of these have come up now. I know of two others that are on walls. Wonder how much they were at source?
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Post by sleepboy on Jan 28, 2014 22:53:26 GMT -8
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