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Post by commandax on Jun 19, 2009 16:25:02 GMT -8
I guess what I'm implying is that some of the older, more affluent European "fine art" collectors – who are the foundation of Jaski's business – might not be as internet-preview-obsessed as we are (may, in fact, not use the internet much at all) and may be waiting to see the work in person. They have observed how the gallery conducts business for Chris for several years, and therefore would be more familiar with those patterns than we are. As a result, they may not be in a big rush to buy an enormous, subtle, expensive painting from a small image on a computer screen.
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Post by evilchoy on Jun 19, 2009 16:28:58 GMT -8
Prices were attached to each image they were around 14,000 and the big one was 32,000 I might be off
The big one is huge!
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Post by roqlarue on Jun 19, 2009 17:05:44 GMT -8
Well, in response to Rizza's post wondering about the price jump...all I can say is that he did basically sell out his debut US show, has a NY show lined up and a museum show in the works in the Netherlands- not bad for a guy who is in his early thirties! And I say that respectfully to Rizza, because I totally understand why someone who question a jump like that. And honestly...his pricing at my show last winter was pretty low for what people were getting...I think! I hope this show does well...I saw it in person and frankly felt a little sick while standing in his studio because I couldn't own everything. Chris' work is tough to really judge from a jpeg- hopefully more exposure in the US and abroad will help!
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Post by commandax on Jun 19, 2009 17:06:28 GMT -8
As a basis for comparison, for anyone following along who's unfamiliar with Berens' pricing...
The largest paintings at Roq la Rue were 40x69 inches, priced at $15,500, and sold.
The 60x60 at the Hi-Fructose show was priced at $19,500, and sold.
The largest painting in this show is 79x95 inches. Square inch-wise, it is just about double the size of the Hi-Fructose painting, and much more complex. It is nearly triple the size of the largest painting at Roq la Rue.
The smallest paintings in this show are 20x24. These were priced at about $6500 at Roq la Rue. The price for these smaller pieces has jumped somewhat in the intervening months... For example, the 20x20 at Hi-Fructose was priced at $7,750.
At this show, this size priced at €7,000, which currently comes to about $9,800, about a 50% increase since the Roq la Rue show (which, to be fair, really did represent a significant price drop from his previous European prices).
But what price love?
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Post by commandax on Jul 15, 2009 21:10:11 GMT -8
This show has been quietly selling... 6 of the 13 pieces are gone now, 5 for €14,000 and the big one for €32,000. So far so good... in this economy, a €102,000 ($143,000) "mini-show" ain't too bad. I have no doubt that the rest of the paintings will eventually find themselves in good homes. My favorite of the bunch, "Mist," is still available.
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Post by rizza79 on Jul 15, 2009 21:41:05 GMT -8
I am glad that the work is moving. As I said, it would be a shame to let this work go unsold. Hopefully he stays at this level for awhile to establish support.
Not to be pessimistic, but I would not doubt one bit that the list prices may not have been scaled back a bit...only makes sense. But who knows....it's good the work is selling. I was surprised Snow was still left. I think it may be gone if it was that much detail in a smaller joint.
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Post by roqlarue on Jul 15, 2009 21:50:51 GMT -8
Robbert Van Hamm at Jaski has a pretty strict no discounts rule. I think he's confident that it will all sell eventually.
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Post by rizza79 on Jul 16, 2009 18:55:32 GMT -8
Robbert Van Hamm at Jaski has a pretty strict no discounts rule. I think he's confident that it will all sell eventually. it's an odd rule for being happy to be known to enforce, but he definitely seems to be proud of that and really go out of his way to make it known.
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Post by ill on Jul 16, 2009 19:11:01 GMT -8
Robbert Van Hamm at Jaski has a pretty strict no discounts rule. I think he's confident that it will all sell eventually. it's an odd rule for being happy to be known to enforce, but he definitely seems to be proud of that and really go out of his way to make it known. More than likely he just tells people that ask for discounts that he doesn't do discounts and thus he gained a 'reputation' which he's more than happy with. If I were selling Chris' works I probably wouldn't discount them either.
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Post by richardtharbaugh on Jul 16, 2009 20:14:57 GMT -8
I find great amusement in this thread! Seriously though, great eye Kirsten for bringing Chris Berens to the US and introducing him in the gallery realm here, and thanks Amanda for thoughtful insight you've continually offered on CB.
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