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Post by amin on Sept 23, 2008 16:54:49 GMT -8
Looking for drawings and small paintings with full provenance. Please PM if you have any. Thanks
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Post by sleepboy on Sept 24, 2008 15:35:13 GMT -8
good luck. hard to find these i think...
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Post by ally on Sept 24, 2008 16:40:31 GMT -8
you can try debbie over at l'imagerie in north hollywood. be prepared to pay $$$$$$$ but she is legit.
good luck!
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Post by oldfartatplay on Sept 24, 2008 18:33:13 GMT -8
The color study for Meat Magi and Just the Girls (drawing) is (or was) available recently.
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Post by amin on Sept 24, 2008 20:22:25 GMT -8
thanks guys, oldfartatplay, who was selling the meat magi/just the girls?
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Post by oldfartatplay on Sept 25, 2008 3:08:03 GMT -8
thanks guys, oldfartatplay, who was selling the meat magi/just the girls? woops sorry! Talk to Annie at Billy Shire Fine Arts. They are gonna cost and arm and a leg and a kidney. |
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Post by lowpro on Sept 25, 2008 13:08:48 GMT -8
As Ally stated, Deb at L'Imagerie has probably the largest inventory of Ryden prints and originals. You're going to be paying a bit of a premium on top of fair market value prices as formed by recent eBay sales. But a fair amount of these items can only be obtained from her at this point. Contact her for the price list. I didn't feel it proper to list the prices. But here is her available inventory as of a month or so ago. There are a decent amount of drawings, studies, and paintings listed. Just to give you an idea, cause I think it's down right silly pricing, the Lincoln's Hand painting, which is lauded by many as possibly Ryden's worst work/print release ever, is priced at $25k. So chomp on that one for a second.
Angel of Meat Sculpture Edition of 30
Butcher Bunny Giclee on Paper Edition of 50
The Birth Limited Edition of 50 Print unframed
California Brown Bear Lithograph Limited Edition of 500 Signed Custom Framed (available unframed)
Christina A.P. Edition unframed
Christina A.P. Edition Custom Framed
Clear Hearts Gray Flowers
Mark Ryden Special Custom Frame
Collaboration Purse w/ Paul Frank
Collaboration Purse w/ Paul Frank (signed)
Creatrix Limited Edition of 200 unframed
Dead Characters Giclee on Paper Custom Framed
Dead Trademarks Giclee on Paper unframed
Debutante #200/200 Custom Framed
Debutante Edition of 200 Custom Framed
General Sherman Edition of 500 Custom Framed
General Sherman Edition of 500 unframed
Girl Color Study 2006 oil on wood
Jajo A.P. #10/10 unframed
Kara Edition of 60 Custom Framed
Original Lincoln’s Hands Acrylic on Board 10”X12.5” Custom Framed
Lincoln’s Hands Multi Plate Multicolor Relief Print 15”X17.5” unframed
Meat Magi A.P. Edition
Madonna & Karl Etching Edition of 40 signed Special Custom Frame Approved by Mark Ryden
Original Pamela Anderson Oil on Paper on Board May 1997 Custom Framed
Pele Giclee Print on Paper unframed
Pele and Exotica A.P. #5/10 Print on Paper unframed
Pele and Exotica Canvas with Frame
Princess Sputnik Limited Edition #60/200 Custom Framed
Regina Naturae Edition of 60
Mark Ryden Special Custom Frame 33.5”X25.5”
Rosie’s Tea Party Limited Edition of 200
Slayer 1999 Original Study
Snow White Limited Edition Giclee A.P.
Tiki God #10/50 Custom Framed
Tree of Life Edition of 40 Etching on Paper 22”X15” Mark Ryden Special Custom Frame
Original War of the End of the World August 1996 Acrylic on Board Custom Framed
Original Wedding Rings Acrylic on Board Custom Framed 25”X31”
Anima Mundi Limited Book with Print
Anima Mundi Regular Edition Book Shrink Wrapped
Blood Audio CD
Bunnies & Bees Catalog
Fushigi Circus First Edition Book
Fushigi Circus Second Edition Book
Fushigi Circus Special Edition Book
Hello Portfolio
Meat Show Catalog
Micro Portfolio 2 Sealed
Micro Portfolio 3
Micro Portfolio 3 Special Edition of 100
Micro Portfolio 4 Blood, Sweat & Tears
Miniature Blood Book Regular Edition
Special Limited Edition Blood Book with Print
Tree Show Pennant (Available signed and unsigned)
Hope this helps!
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Post by roqlarue on Sept 25, 2008 14:12:50 GMT -8
Just an FYI but if you are seriously looking for originals you should just contact dealers who have shown him in the past- or have been around awhile. We often get stuff we never post in the interest of being discreet, rather they are offered to collectors we know are interested (and don't have a history of flipping on ebay.)
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Post by jimandtara on Sept 25, 2008 14:52:35 GMT -8
the Lincoln's Hand painting, which is lauded by many as possibly Ryden's worst work/print release ever, is priced at $25k. So chomp on that one for a second. Lauded shmauded! Who are these people?!  with all due respect, anyone that feels that way doesnt understand the piece at all - the process behind its creation and how that drove the simple yet powerful image that was created for it. The piece submitted to Grand Central Press was to be considered for a multi-plate relief print using an antique printing press under the direction of Master Printmaker, James Lorigan. Hence, the work submitted had to be strong, and simple - any detail had to be strong as well given the constraints of the process (ie, lend itself well to the process of multi-plate relief printing). I think his use of contrast with the lace on the dress shows Ryden genius in being to inject even more detail into the piece. The result conceptually IMO is one of Rydens most powerful images - a mans expressed love and WANT for a woman. The woman larger than life to him, reaching out so strongly that his hands detach (of course Lincoln is used to represent the man). Granted its a departure from what most know as Rydens work and probably why they don't understand it but there are strong stylistic cues that if you really appreciate Rydens work you know at a glance its his! Heres ours - we love it! Also proud to have a piece made by James Lorigan - actually 2, I have Shag's BBQ Devil as well jIm   |
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Post by oldfartatplay on Sept 25, 2008 16:03:36 GMT -8
I was trying to keep my BIG MOUTH SHUT (Kirsten politely called it discreet;)) when I posted above. This is a pubic forum so anyone could come here and post a request to know who has what and where. That is why I didn't state my source in my first post above. Flippers and scammers abound, but I strongly doubt that amin is one. Good luck on your quest!
I can't believe that someone is asking 25,000 for the Lincoln Hands print. I was offered one a year ago for 10 times less. I was intrigued as I had not seen one before. After doing a little research I found out that those were given as gifts to people for doing a favor. It's a nice little "rare" piece but I think someone is off a decimal point or two in there price.
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Post by jimandtara on Sept 25, 2008 16:06:45 GMT -8
I can't believe that someone is asking 25,000 for the Lincoln Hands print. Walt is speaking of the original (acrylic on board 10" x 12.5" framed) for $25K jIm |
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Post by oldfartatplay on Sept 25, 2008 16:12:41 GMT -8
Ohhh, I see now, he wrote painting not print. I was not aware that there was a painting of this  Sorry. |
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Post by jimandtara on Sept 25, 2008 16:56:50 GMT -8
Ohhh, I see now, he wrote painting not print. I was not aware that there was a painting of this Sorry. Oldfart - No worries - Lincoln's Hands was made much in the same way Pressure Printing now makes thier editions. Printing plates are made (long involved process) from the original work submitted. I liken this piece to the one Joe Sorren just submitted to Brad at Pressure Printing - it doesnt look like all of Joe's other works yet you can tell its a Sorren. Thats because in part he was working on a piece that was meant to be printed a certain way - so he was working within the constraints of the intended printing process - and to submit a piece that would lend itself well to the process (in this case intaglio). jIm |
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Post by lowpro on Sept 25, 2008 18:49:55 GMT -8
the Lincoln's Hand painting, which is lauded by many as possibly Ryden's worst work/print release ever, is priced at $25k. So chomp on that one for a second. Lauded shmauded! Who are these people?! Haha. Sorry, my friend. I suppose I shouldn't speak for the masses and I was probably stretching a bit with the generalization. I just really can't stand the piece and feel there is very little Ryden-esque about it..and most others I've discussed this piece with since it's release felt the same way. But while I knew some of the history behind it, I wasn't aware of the significance of the publisher. As you point out, a typical Ryden painting certainly could not have been used for such a printing process. So, in that sense, it's definitely a Ryden work of a completely different breed, and should be viewed and judged as such. My statement was a bit bold and ill-suited perhaps. But it still doesn't make me like the print any more. Glad you do, though. That's all that matters. That said, I'd actually love to see the source painting to see if it incorporated the same color scheme etc. |
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Post by solar77 on Sept 26, 2008 6:01:03 GMT -8
Actually $25K seems reasonable on that piece, given what I've been quoted on Ryden originals in the past.
By the way, you can add the original Pumpkin President to that list as well. I don't think it's technically for sale, but I got the impression that it could be had (in exchange for your house, car and immortal soul).
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Post by brobt on Sept 26, 2008 6:35:47 GMT -8
You could also try Alix at sloanart.com. She has had some in the past, and is a great resource if you are looking for something in particular. sloanart.com/index.html |
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Post by jimandtara on Sept 26, 2008 16:11:27 GMT -8
By the way, you can add the original Pumpkin President to that list as well. I don't think it's technically for sale, but I got the impression that it could be had. Oh - its for sale! If you told her you wanted to buy her husband, she'd throw a frame around his neck and put a hang tag on his ear! jIm |
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Post by masao626 on Sept 26, 2008 16:21:26 GMT -8
If you told her you wanted to buy her husband, she'd throw a frame around his neck and put a hang tag on his ear! jIm LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by oldfartatplay on Sept 26, 2008 16:40:46 GMT -8
Yes LOL!!!!!!!!!
Last I heard she wanted $750,000, up from the previous $250,000.
I have worked on some things with Debi before. She is very savvy and has been in the business for a long time. No regrets.
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Post by amin on Sept 30, 2008 11:01:23 GMT -8
yowza, well that's way beyond my price range. Thanks guys for all the tips.
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Post by jacklope on Dec 12, 2010 18:59:26 GMT -8
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Post by aisle4 on Dec 16, 2010 15:28:00 GMT -8
What's with the anti-flipper point of view in a few posts here? I don't understand why gallerists have a problem with art buyers flipping. If a gallery sells a work of art for a price they believe to be fair and I decide to sell it six months later for a price I and the buyer find to be fair, that transaction is none of your business. If you don't want my money the next time I'm looking to buy I'm sure I won't have any problem finding a place to spend it. I despise the attitude some gallerists have about controlling the market for their artists. I'm getting tired of galleries in general. I prefer to deal directly with the artists and wish more artists would opt out of the gallery model for reaching an audience.
I know young artists need to find an audience. Fine, but please stop signing contracts with galleries.
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Post by steveinca on Dec 16, 2010 22:02:15 GMT -8
What's with the anti-flipper point of view in a few posts here? I don't understand why gallerists have a problem with art buyers flipping. If a gallery sells a work of art for a price they believe to be fair and I decide to sell it six months later for a price I and the buyer find to be fair, that transaction is none of your business. If you don't want my money the next time I'm looking to buy I'm sure I won't have any problem finding a place to spend it. I despise the attitude some gallerists have about controlling the market for their artists. I'm getting tired of galleries in general. I prefer to deal directly with the artists and wish more artists would opt out of the gallery model for reaching an audience. I know young artists need to find an audience. Fine, but please stop signing contracts with galleries. Although I agree with you, I think the main reason behind the angst against flippers is that art tends to be a very personal thing. And most artists would prefer that there art goes to a home where it is appreciated vs bought and sold like a stock. I can't help but think that most artists would love the thought of their art being bought and sold like a commodity. All artists are striving for success, which is unfortunately based on dollar signs and sales. Artists become artists because they love creating, but once they get a taste of succe$$, one can't help but think that it's accompanied by a sense of accomplishment, the "i've made it" feeling. I'm sure Hirst and Koons love the extraordinary amount of money their pieces fetch, not only because of all the money they're making. |
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Post by mancub on Dec 17, 2010 8:29:29 GMT -8
I am a new artist and therefore rely on the gallery to help expose my work and build a fan base with me. I'm not sure how other artists work but I am always happy when someone contacts me for a commission piece if I have the time. I always appreciate making that connection with the buyer or even an enthusiast that enjoys my work. While money is nice and without it I couldn't continue what I am doing, I love to paint and I am just ecstatic that my work can speak to others and they can seek enjoyment from it. Yes, having your prices go up is fantastic, not just because of making more money, but for the fact that usually your prices go up because your work is more desired and sought after. Maybe steveinca is only referring to artists that 'have made it (big)' but I can't help but feel I 'have made it' already, as it is hard to take off in the art world and I am truly thankful to have found a small niche out there for my work.
Insomniac- Andrew over at Thinkspace Gallery is truly a great guy, very sincere when it comes to helping out emerging artists. Props Andrew
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Post by mancub on Dec 17, 2010 8:35:50 GMT -8
Sorry about getting off of topic, love to talk about this sort of thing though!
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Sorry.
