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Post by guymo on May 15, 2013 1:28:58 GMT -8
I quite like those sculptures, wish we could see them at more angles and closer Are they truly three dimensional though? His web site describes them as "Hand manipulated archival prints, laser-cut acrylic sheets" which leads me to believe they are essentially flat objects. Sven?
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Post by guymo on May 13, 2013 11:15:01 GMT -8
The seller may have run into trouble had he managed to secure a sale in the original listing without condition report, but other than that I don't see an issue really. He wants to sell something. He lists it as a fixed price sale. It doesn't sell. He tries an auction. Why not? On the other hand: I asked the seller if he would deal off the bay That is against ebay rules.
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Post by guymo on May 6, 2013 0:20:31 GMT -8
I hope they displayed the monkey scribble and story with the canvas shown above that resulted from it. That is the more important piece of the art here. To remove that piece guts the whole. I want to agree with this completely, but I have some nagging doubts. Regardless of how one ends up feeling about a work like this, if you don't know the story then you don't have the whole work to consider. So to me it seems daft not to present the painting and the story together when the original monkey-scribble is something not many people would know about and recognise. (I haven't been to Ritter/Zamet to see the show yet -- can someone who has tell us how they're presenting this?) But I do also wonder how far that should be taken. For instance, Manet's Olympia gains almost all its power from its cultural references (and now, from its place in history). If you don't know what the imagery refers to then you won't experience what the artist intended. But I guess Olympia would not have been displayed alongside a description of Titian's Venus and detailed explanation of the cultural signifiers in the image when it was first shown. Perhaps these things were just very well known at the time. So, right now I am thinking that it's the relative obscurity of the reference material that makes it important to explain. Eek, did I just compare Louis Eisner to Manet?
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Post by guymo on May 5, 2013 3:37:45 GMT -8
where is it on display? would like to check it out in person It's at Ritter/Zamet in London.
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Post by guymo on May 3, 2013 7:28:27 GMT -8
Thanks for answering! This was just the kind of thing I wondered about: whether the collection reflects a movement in taste, or just comes closer to being representative of taste you've had all along, or whether there was something else going on. I think it's interesting, when looking at these collection threads, to be able not only to enjoy the collection itself vicariously but also the curation process --- so thank you for that bit of insight.
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Post by guymo on May 1, 2013 13:41:12 GMT -8
At the risk of opening up a debate that didn't quite happen earlier in the thread, these latest three pieces (my favourites of the ones you've posted from your enviable collection) really do seem to represent a departure for your collection. Is there anything behind that? Is it shifting taste, or did you always want works like these but didn't add them until now for lack of availability, or something else? I'm genuinely interested in understanding how the collection evolves.
------- In case the above offends, please ignore and read the following instead: great pieces, thanks for sharing, awesome!
I'm sure we all feel better now.
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Post by guymo on May 1, 2013 13:31:23 GMT -8
I am delighted to have been introduced to this work by this thread. Thank you! I don't know what I think of these paintings but I am certainly enjoying looking at them. Like Bridget Riley on speed.
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Post by guymo on May 1, 2013 10:38:03 GMT -8
Preview looks excellent!
The preview I can see jumps straight from Ryan Bubnis to Tripper Dungan, so it looks like quite a bit of work is missing from the preview. Is that deliberate? Also no sign of anything by Katrin Fridriks...
Still, great looking show --- thanks and good luck with it!
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Post by guymo on Apr 15, 2013 12:42:08 GMT -8
There seems to be a huge amount of hype around this guy at the moment. Maybe this isn't the place to ask or answer, but as a relative outsider to the art world / scene / whatever you might call it, I wonder: where does one hear or read all this hype? The only place I have encountered this artist is on this forum...
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Post by guymo on Apr 13, 2013 23:43:21 GMT -8
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Post by guymo on Apr 11, 2013 5:59:11 GMT -8
Thanks -- that explains pretty clearly how the image ends up on the film. From there to the prints is I suppose "just printing" but it's something I know very little about. If there is a digital element to the process then I think that's a pity, since this work seems to be quite strongly defined by the process.
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Post by guymo on Apr 11, 2013 2:12:44 GMT -8
Since these are composed in a dark room by a seemingly complex method of light manipulation onto a piece of photo paper, shouldn't that object be the piece that's displayed in a gallery and sold as the final artwork? It takes it several steps backwards to then scan that photo paper then re-output it as an inkjet print. Oh. If that is the process, it's a shame. I thought that she essentially composed the work "inside the camera" on the film, so that the prints that are displayed and sold are photographic prints produced from the film negative by whatever process. In my mind it was an analogue process, but I see now that M+B does list them as "archival pigment prints" which sounds like inkjet to me, so I am sure you are right. Guy.
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Post by guymo on Mar 27, 2013 11:35:34 GMT -8
^ where is that piece? london? Yes, Great Eastern St in Shoreditch. Trendy trendy Shoreditch.
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Post by guymo on Mar 25, 2013 9:47:37 GMT -8
Then you need to ask yourself: What am I going to do with this thing post purchase? Probably not set it up and leave it out. Probably going under the bed or in the closet. You're not even meant to set it up and leave it out on display: the construction is not intended to support itself for long periods, I understand.
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Post by guymo on Mar 16, 2013 2:36:40 GMT -8
Concerning the price of the woven piece that sold for $53,000 at charity auction, the real cost to the buyer of that piece is probably closer to $40,000. You arrive at that amount by looking at the current tax laws. If you can show you paid in excess of the real value of a piece (auction estimate $25,000) at a charitable auction then the additional amount over the real value ($28,000) is tax deductible. If the buyer lived in CA like me and is in the highest tax brackets (federal and state) then you can take about 45% off the $28,000 and add it to the $25,000 estimated value and the real cost is $40,400. The buyer can point to an auction price of $53,000, but in actuality only had to pay $40,000. It’s good to be rich. I understand the math, I’ll leave it to the experts to argue if it is art or not. so awesome. i love nerdy things like this. I think it stops seeming nerdy the day it saves you $13000.
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Post by guymo on Mar 11, 2013 14:45:04 GMT -8
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Post by guymo on Feb 28, 2013 1:41:17 GMT -8
Yes, pretty cool indeed. I saw this show at Haunch a few weeks back. The piece with the creature carrying the old lady was simultaneously serene and unnerving --- it took me a while to convince myself that she was a sculpture rather than an actress. Edited to add: I see she has some work in a show down at Newlyn gallery in Cornwall at the moment; and that I also thought her Vespas pieces were kind of interesting. www.patriciapiccinini.net/works/03Vespas_2006-2011/"The Lovers" was at Haunch, I think .
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Post by guymo on Feb 1, 2013 16:48:42 GMT -8
Didnt see a Ryniak thread (I dont think) Why not start one then?
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Post by guymo on Jan 29, 2013 8:49:54 GMT -8
I wish arrested motion would label the artists work in the photos! I agree with this, though I also think that I'd rather see the photos than not see them so I'm grateful to AM for posting them.
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Post by guymo on Jan 29, 2013 8:47:12 GMT -8
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Post by guymo on Jan 25, 2013 3:50:56 GMT -8
I'm not too familiar with Paris - I do remember the boat ride on the Seine was nice as well as Notre Dame. In terms of art, maybe I missed it but surely you will want to visit the Louvre right? www.louvre.fr/enI've spent quite a bit of time there over the years, but not since I started paying attention to contemporary (as in "producing work right now") artists, so that was really the focus of my question --- what commercial galleries should I be poking around while there. But yes, the museums are pretty good too
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Post by guymo on Jan 24, 2013 13:59:55 GMT -8
my favorite museum on earth: museum de orsay Ah, you like queues? I always liked the Museé D'Orsay too, but last March I spent the whole month in Paris, living right by it, and didn't ever see it without at least a 2 hour line outside, even an hour before opening on a Sunday morning. Crazy.
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Post by guymo on Jan 23, 2013 13:53:12 GMT -8
Love these new painted photograms: Me too, but I don't understand how they are produced. There were some smaller ones at Ronchini in London last year, and the staff there launched enthusiastically into explaining how they were made, before getting confused and giving up! Do you know how they're made? Clearly there is garden trellis and sunlight involved at some point, but I can't see exactly at what point.
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Post by guymo on Jan 23, 2013 7:32:02 GMT -8
Thanks everyone for these. Looks like I'll be busy!
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Post by guymo on Jan 21, 2013 2:05:03 GMT -8
I meant that in the singular form. Nate said it comes with an original painting inside plus the prints. Oh yeah, silly me. Sorry. I'm so stupid sometimes.
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