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Post by svenman on Sept 21, 2011 6:14:41 GMT -8
Just been told they have no record of my order despite me having an informal confirmation email from them. Now waiting for a call from the boss. Totally gutted. That sucks ass. You should request an AP version Victor. Sounds like their system has fucked up, so they should honour your order.
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Post by alsbabar on Sept 21, 2011 8:12:42 GMT -8
Victor have you got a screengrab of your purchase - i make it a habit of doing so on each online purchase, so as to avoid any issues or confusion down the line Got my invoice today
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Post by afroken on Sept 21, 2011 8:14:51 GMT -8
Well well, Ali, hello. Where have you been hiding?
I'm pleased to say that it's all sorted. Just a mix up on their end. Happy days!
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Post by prpr on Sept 21, 2011 9:01:29 GMT -8
And she supplied a copy of the classic Yes or No and/or Yes and No Paulson Etching to the annual Watermill Summer Benefit in July, also auctioned by Phillips. watermillcenter.org/benefit/auction/auerbachI think I have it in an email somewhere what it closed at. thanks for the link - i didn't know it was that print, but i did read her piece at watermill sold for $7000 in the silent auction, as reported here (http://www.observer.com/2011/08/painted-ladies-buried-artists-and-a-steamroller-at-the-robert-wilson%E2%80%99s-watermill-benefit/), which may have been the "buy it now" price if they have those as the article makes it sound like it sold quickly (i think this print, which is lovely, retailed from $1200 to $3500 as the edition sold out)
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Post by prpr on Sept 21, 2011 9:10:49 GMT -8
As per info posted earlier in the thread, the only Fold painting to pop up in an auction setting was was at charity benefit last Nov. www.thekitchen.org/auction2010/index.html#artworkNo concrete results that I got wind of definitively. But speculation was that it came close to closing around 10x the estimate. artinfo reported that "a 2010 painting from her "Fold" series sold for over five times its stated $8,000 retail value at the Kitchen's benefit auction later in the month" (see www.artinfo.com/news/story/36607/paula-cooper-gallery-snags-artist-tauba-auerbach/). so a benefit sized fold painting (30x24") sold for over $40k, which was closer to the price range of the bigger (e.g., 80x60") fold paintings back when they were available (ahh, the good old days)
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Post by prpr on Sept 21, 2011 9:13:34 GMT -8
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Post by ricosg11 on Sept 21, 2011 13:24:19 GMT -8
how the heck did you guys find out about these? I thought I was in the loop!
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Post by avert on Sept 21, 2011 23:26:25 GMT -8
let me get this straight.......you're all excited about diasec mounting these?? permanently glueing tauba auerbach photos to plexi?? the hottest young artist out there, and you're going to make the call to permanently adhere plastic to the front of them. keep in mind, this is not how she frames them. please think twice about this.
i'm bringing this up because i'm hoping to one day buy these prints on the secondary market, and i'd have to think twice about buying them if this is how they were framed. i'm still quite sad that they were all sold out by the time i found out about the release (the very same day they were released, agh!!!) ((my loss))
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Post by svenman on Sept 21, 2011 23:38:09 GMT -8
i must admit, i'm not familiar with the process as i don't own any c prints. as you say that avert, it does sound not too good, but i did think that this is how many c prints are framed. any other advice on how to deal with these? on another note, i just ordered one of these albums with pop up cover designed by tauba. in anticipation of getting the pop up book mainly! looks like the vinyl is mainly sold out from the label www.mexicansummer.com/shop/the-alps-easy-action/but there are a few places on the internets that have them in stock for a reasonable price. i've read that they are limited and numbered, but can't find the edition size anywhere... www.omgvinyl.com/2011/04/01/the-alps-easy-action-lp/
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Post by gilsteph on Sept 22, 2011 1:02:36 GMT -8
Hi Sven, More details of the LP here but no edition size. www.discogs.com/Alps-Easy-Action/release/2802787There are alot for sale in the link above, all around the $20 range for those interested. (or try Norman records and piccadily records if you are in the UK)
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Post by afroken on Sept 22, 2011 7:06:25 GMT -8
let me get this straight.......you're all excited about diasec mounting these?? permanently glueing tauba auerbach photos to plexi?? the hottest young artist out there, and you're going to make the call to permanently adhere plastic to the front of them. keep in mind, this is not how she frames them. please think twice about this. i'm bringing this up because i'm hoping to one day buy these prints on the secondary market, and i'd have to think twice about buying them if this is how they were framed. i'm still quite sad that they were all sold out by the time i found out about the release (the very same day they were released, agh!!!) ((my loss)) That's a fair point about it not being how the artist frames them. The large Static pieces are however always dry mounted to perspex when framed as the artist intended so not a million miles off. But these are small pieces and don't necessarily require mounting. Diasec mounting, when done properly, is one of the best ways to preserve photography and is widely used by high end photographers. Andreas Gursky uses it for all his work and that sells for £500k plus so I don't think it's anything to worry about.
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Post by ricosg11 on Sept 22, 2011 11:46:09 GMT -8
I own a large, static, c print and as far as I can tell, it is float mounted with no border. It is about a 1/2" back from the plexi. So while it may be drymounted to the backing board(not sure), it is definitely not mounted to plexi on the image side.
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Post by afroken on Sept 22, 2011 11:54:45 GMT -8
I meant the back is dry mounted. You can't float photographic paper of that size. It will ripple and warp.
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Post by boppieboy on Sept 22, 2011 11:54:58 GMT -8
You are not in the loop scott as I told Tauba about your shenanigans with Parla, Faile and others. Quit while you are ahead
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Post by ricosg11 on Sept 22, 2011 19:06:18 GMT -8
I don't know who you are our what your problem with me is, but you are mistaken.
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Post by juggernut3 on Sept 22, 2011 20:37:19 GMT -8
Hey boppieboy, not to get into anyone's personal business. I would hope that we can all be constructive in our comments on the board and leave personal names or issues to private messages. Thanks.
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Post by avert on Sept 22, 2011 20:43:28 GMT -8
Agreed. Leave the drama out.
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Post by raumschiff on Sept 24, 2011 1:06:07 GMT -8
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Post by afroken on Sept 24, 2011 3:29:33 GMT -8
That CMY5 was available from NIA last Summer and I turned it down as I didn't think it was very good. I think a couple of other people on here did as well. It will be very interesting to see what it goes for but I'm very surprised to see it in an evening sale. That's a pretty bold move by Phillips de Pury.
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Post by lowpro on Sept 24, 2011 5:41:05 GMT -8
Too early.
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Post by funkymonkey on Sept 24, 2011 7:27:29 GMT -8
Phillips de Pury is known to be aggressive and adventurous with their estimate and lot list. For instance, all Jacob Kassay's works have been auctioned via PdP thus far. I am not sure if this is the best strategy given Sotheby's had a similar approach two years ago and got burned. Let's see how well Tauba's piece will fetch. I am a big fan of her works but this piece is not a Fold painting, in my opinion.
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Post by solar77 on Sept 24, 2011 11:11:11 GMT -8
That piece was offered to me by former Deitch staff for $13K last year. I don't know if they acquired it from NIA or if they were trying to middle man it, but I passed. It's a very weak piece to throw into an evening sale.
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Post by lowpro on Sept 24, 2011 11:14:55 GMT -8
Ha. Just to chime it here too, I got Marsea down to 13.5 before passing, with it being offered at 15k.
And I might suggest it could be less sinister than being greedy, with her simply being a fruit loop and potentially "forgetting" about your deal or "misplacing" the email correspondence. But probably not.
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Post by lowpro on Sept 24, 2011 11:16:01 GMT -8
I actually liked the Letters of the Alphabet piece she had much more. But again, couldn't justify the pricetag at the time...even now in spite of how much has changed.
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Post by epicfai on Sept 24, 2011 12:23:25 GMT -8
It's a very weak piece to throw into an evening sale. well, tauba is the current flavor of the month so im not too surprised. im sure we'll see people continue to test the market.
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