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Post by lahoda on Apr 7, 2012 7:25:42 GMT -8
laist.com/2012/03/30/history_of_murals_new_video_explores.phpThe LA Freewalls Project is a community supported initiative to let art happen in DTLA. We've been doing these murals in a concentrated fashion for 2 1/2 years now; there are over 80 world-class Artworks that have been created so far by over 40 Artists.
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Post by boki on Apr 7, 2012 16:51:46 GMT -8
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Post by lahoda on Apr 7, 2012 19:07:17 GMT -8
Please feel free to ask the Artists about my value in the community and our experiences in working together for many years now. Do you think that I would have the trust and confidence of the Artists if any of that were true? ...You can't Google experience... The crime alert is fraudulent political bullshit, Greg Linton from Melrose and Fairfax is completely misguided and I got paid $5500 to appear on Judge Judy which was used to produce more murals in the neighborhood. Seriously though, You're welcome to stop by LALA, or give me a call sometime to discuss your concerns... Come to the neighborhood and spend an afternoon with over 80 murals that we've produced over the past 2 1/2 years. If you had any knowledge of what this takes; particularly in the face of such political and market-driven bullshit, you would understand the value of my role with these Artists, and yes, you would be much more comfortable with my work. This is an awesome show of very high caliber work. I hope that you all can focus on the good work that we do, instead of the stories and bullshit and rumors... This is going to be a fantastic show, and I'd rather not any liars or slanderers try to ruin it. I understand your concern, and I appreciate that. Thanks. -Daniel |
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Post by commandax on Apr 7, 2012 23:08:39 GMT -8
I will vouch for Daniel. He is a valuable member of the Los Angeles arts community and is respected by a great number of street and graffiti artists. Many of the artists we discuss on this board have been working with him for years, and dozens of them have participated in his L.A. Freewalls Project. He fights for the survival of graffiti as an artform in Los Angeles with a passion and fervor few could match. Whatever mistakes he may or may not have made in the past, Daniel hasn't done anything wrong here on the board. Much of the negative stuff you see about him online is police-generated propaganda purposely meant to damage the reputation of a person who provides a great deal of support to the graffiti community. If he truly was such a terrible guy... well, the police know where he lives, so why is he still walking around producing murals and curating art shows? This topic has been discussed here before several times, and it doesn't need to be rehashed now. If you have grievances with him, please take them elsewhere. |
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Post by afroken on Apr 8, 2012 2:04:38 GMT -8
Edit: I have taken my comments to PM. No point starting this debate again.
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Post by mose on Apr 8, 2012 4:35:00 GMT -8
I will vouch for Daniel. He is a valuable member of the Los Angeles arts community and is respected by a great number of street and graffiti artists. Many of the artists we discuss on this board have been working with him for years, and dozens of them have participated in his L.A. Freewalls Project. He fights for the survival of graffiti as an artform in Los Angeles with a passion and fervor few could match. Whatever mistakes he may or may not have made in the past, Daniel hasn't done anything wrong here on the board. Much of the negative stuff you see about him online is police-generated propaganda purposely meant to damage the reputation of a person who provides a great deal of support to the graffiti community. If he truly was such a terrible guy... well, the police know where he lives, so why is he still walking around producing murals and curating art shows? This topic has been discussed here before several times, and it doesn't need to be rehashed now. If you have grievances with him, please take them elsewhere. Funny, you say, "Doesn't need to be rehashed," after you add your PR fluff to the proceedings. Basically, "I've said my positive spin, now the rest of you be quiet." Excellent moderator technique. Call it Silky 101, lol... |
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Post by paulypaul on Apr 8, 2012 5:26:29 GMT -8
Well that's a relief. I thought you were a thieving, lying, bullshitting chancer but if you say you aren't, we'll, that okay then....
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Post by ricosg11 on Apr 8, 2012 6:12:11 GMT -8
Speaking of which, I see no mention of these freewalls on .info. Surely it is worth promoting on the Banksy board, no? My Passover farts smell like roasted garlic. I will vouch for Daniel. He is a valuable member of the Los Angeles arts community and is respected by a great number of street and graffiti artists. Many of the artists we discuss on this board have been working with him for years, and dozens of them have participated in his L.A. Freewalls Project. He fights for the survival of graffiti as an artform in Los Angeles with a passion and fervor few could match. Whatever mistakes he may or may not have made in the past, Daniel hasn't done anything wrong here on the board. Much of the negative stuff you see about him online is police-generated propaganda purposely meant to damage the reputation of a person who provides a great deal of support to the graffiti community. If he truly was such a terrible guy... well, the police know where he lives, so why is he still walking around producing murals and curating art shows? This topic has been discussed here before several times, and it doesn't need to be rehashed now. If you have grievances with him, please take them elsewhere. Funny, you say, "Doesn't need to be rehashed," after you add your PR fluff to the proceedings. Basically, "I've said my positive spin, now the rest of you be quiet." Excellent moderator technique. Call it Silky 101, lol... |
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Post by droow2 on Apr 8, 2012 7:41:44 GMT -8
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Post by dotdot on Apr 8, 2012 8:25:23 GMT -8
free.. ?
I don't think this thread is being treated as badly as it could be.
..and i can't be bothered to bother with it anymore... can someone delete it.
it's sadly this kind of thread which questions the WHOLE point of this forum.
this is a low point so far this year.
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Post by sleepboy on Apr 8, 2012 11:35:28 GMT -8
This forum was created as a place for discussing art and artists freely. We were basically a loose collective of art fans that want to foster a nice environment for talking about what we love. As it is with these things, the business of art inevitably will become a topic of discussion. I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion whether it's a forum member or a moderator. The forum doesn't necessarily take a stance on most topics although sometimes a moderator may feel like speaking up - but again, it's a personal opinion. Based on the past experiences of some people here about this topic, I definitely understand why there are such strong feelings out there on both sides and you are welcome to express them. I think that I can speak for commandax and say that everyone is welcome to leave comments if they wish. I'm sure those who are interested and make their way here will make their own decisions on the topic. There are a some things to keep in mind though to hopefully prevent threads from getting out of hand. Please don't create additional accounts for posting comments (or for any other reason), those will be disabled and you eventually banned if it becomes a pattern. Obviously, people who have engaged in proven fraudulent behavior carried out here on the forum will not be tolerated. This thread may also be an additional place to voice your opinions for those interested - artchival.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=generaldiscussion&thread=5996&page=1 |
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Post by afroken on Apr 8, 2012 12:18:32 GMT -8
I have had a constructive conversation about this with Commandax by PM and it seems clear that we both represent polarising ends of this debate, which can be summarised as follows:
There are those, mostly members of the LA graf community, that feel that Lahoda has pumped thousands of dollars into supporting said community and deserves respect for the sacrifices he is perceived to have made. Then there are those that feel that a good proportion of that money has been stolen from others and that Lahoda has tainted that community with his ill-gotten gains.
There are those that accept that Lahoda may have done wrong in the past but that time is a healer and that he deserves to be redeemed. Then there are those that believe that the only way that time can redeem him is if that time is spent in prison.
I think that summarises it pretty well, although Commandax may want to add to that.
Personally I don't feel comfortable at all with Lahoda being allowed to launder his reputation on a public forum but I understand that Commandax has her personal opinion and wants to express it. However, I think the owners of this forum would be prudent to distance themselves from this and give the wider community the benefit of the doubt by politely asking Lahoda to not promote himself or his activities on here. That's all I'm saying on the subject.
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Post by andyctree on Apr 9, 2012 15:41:58 GMT -8
I just love that he has yet to admit doing anything wrong.
The first step to forgiveness is acceptance of wrong doing.
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