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Post by gamma888 on Feb 1, 2012 6:35:58 GMT -8
Another sneak preview from Prism:  Looks like Os Gemeos are starting to warm us up... can't judge based on the preliminary stage of their artistic process... ;-) |
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Post by jB on Feb 1, 2012 7:14:36 GMT -8
^ Now that I like - Are there any other sneaky pics?
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Post by sleepboy on Feb 10, 2012 9:55:28 GMT -8
^ Now that I like - Are there any other sneaky pics? More...     |
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Post by afroken on Feb 10, 2012 10:30:25 GMT -8
Woah! That first one is something else!
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Post by jB on Feb 10, 2012 10:43:44 GMT -8
^ Now that I like - Are there any other sneaky pics? More... Cheers for that Sleep, I quite this one of the bunch, but agree with V, that first one is fantastic also. I know it's been said a hundred times over, but these type of pieces truly need to be seen up close to be appreciated. |
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Post by jB on Feb 10, 2012 10:45:08 GMT -8
On a side note, has anyone seen any of the completed portrait type works?
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 10, 2012 12:05:31 GMT -8
the first one is great. some of these others look strong too. I personally think I am more partial to the works with a pattern background but that is being picky. the twins skills are definitely more refined. I wonder if these pieces are the standard 5 x 6.5ft or whatever.
I heard that those sized works will be $140k....anyone else hear anything else similar or different?
also, has anyone had any luck with contacting the gallery? I recently heard that the people who run this gallery are like early 20's.
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Post by ricosg11 on Feb 10, 2012 12:58:21 GMT -8
Must be nice to have a rich dad buy you a gallery...
Arent these the guys who changed the dates and titles on the Richard Hambleton paintings in order to hide their auction histories?
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Post by svenman on Feb 10, 2012 14:21:10 GMT -8
Must be nice to have a rich dad buy you a gallery... Arent these the guys who changed the dates and titles on the Richard Hambleton paintings in order to hide their auction histories? No, no exactly but there is a connection. The Hambleton episode was orchestrated by Vladimir Restoin Roitfeld and Andy Valmorbida. His younger brother P.C. Valmorbida runs Prism with Jared Najjar. |
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Post by lowpro on Feb 10, 2012 14:38:46 GMT -8
I wonder if these pieces are the standard 5 x 6.5ft or whatever. I heard that those sized works will be $140k Well, I figured it would be something ridiculous like that, but was anticipating - or hoping nothing that much more than 100k. In either case, I will happily put my foot in my mouth regarding their price appreciation being paced and sustainable. There hadn't been anything public all last year up until Fermata to reference and compare. But as of December 2010 at the NIA Basel group show, the two 6.5x6.5ft paintings were still priced at 53k. If those are now almost 3x what they were only a year and a few months ago, you'd have to agree that falls into the too far too fast category. Obviously, PRISM is known for juiced prices and shifty practices, but that can't account for such a ludicrous price adjustment. Whether they warrant these prices or not is a different story. They are certainly large paintings, there is absolutely demand for their work, there were some historic auction results last year, and perhaps prices were suppressed at that 50k primary range for too long. But at 150k, even for something that is 6x6ft, there's arguably better value in other artists out there. |
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Post by drevil on Feb 10, 2012 14:47:17 GMT -8
I wonder if these pieces are the standard 5 x 6.5ft or whatever. I heard that those sized works will be $140k Well, I figured it would be something ridiculous like that, but was anticipating - or hoping nothing that much more than 100k. In either case, I will happily put my foot in my mouth regarding their price appreciation being paced and sustainable. There hadn't been anything public all last year up until Fermata to reference and compare. But as of December 2010 at the NIA Basel group show, the two 6.5x6.5ft paintings were still priced at 53k. If those are now almost 3x what they were only a year and a few months ago, you'd have to agree that falls into the too far too fast category. Obviously, PRISM is known for juiced prices and shifty practices, but that can't account for such a ludicrous price adjustment. Whether they warrant these prices or not is a different story. They are certainly large paintings, there is absolutely demand for their work, there were some historic auction results last year, and perhaps prices were suppressed at that 50k primary range for too long. But at 150k, even for something that is 6x6ft, there's arguably better value in other artists out there. Love the work, but agree 100%. I'll wait to reserve judgment until I see the prices with my own eyes though. |
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 10, 2012 14:52:12 GMT -8
i just wanted to clarify that I am not 100% certain that the prices will be $140k, but I did get the impression they would fall in that neighborhood. that is why I posted to see if anyone else had any information.
i would have to agree that if the works are priced here, it is too expensive. however, after doing some more reading up on Prism and based on personal experience, I would not put too much stock in what the they price the works at or if they sell or don't sell. I get the sense that what happens at this gallery with shows and sales may not be a fair assessment of an artist's true market.
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Post by bluesteel on Feb 12, 2012 19:24:27 GMT -8
The prices are definitely 100-120K for the lager pieces.
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Post by harveyn on Feb 13, 2012 5:59:31 GMT -8
Out of interest did anybody get any response to emails sent? I have dealt with this gallery many times over the years and have a large work from their McGee show a few years back. I have always had a response with respect to availability and prices but for some strange reason on this show not a single word after sending several emails over several months. Poor form IMO.
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 13, 2012 6:35:56 GMT -8
it would not surprise me in the slightest if the work was all promised out already or perhaps they know they can sell it at their convenience and are getting ready for the opening. I know that the twins are very busy transforming the gallery into their own wonderland of sorts. from what I hear it should be pretty damn solid and definitely worth the trip for those going to the opening.
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Post by harveyn on Feb 13, 2012 6:48:38 GMT -8
it would not surprise me in the slightest if the work was all promised out already or perhaps they know they can sell it at their convenience and are getting ready for the opening. I know that the twins are very busy transforming the gallery into their own wonderland of sorts. from what I hear it should be pretty damn solid and definitely worth the trip for those going to the opening. I agree and can fully appreciate that, but a simple holding email to state that on this occasion there would be no electronic previews would have satisfied. Simply not responding is not the correct approach IMO. |
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Post by volvic on Feb 13, 2012 7:07:07 GMT -8
i had a response to tell me just that so i am not holding out much hope.
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Post by harveyn on Feb 13, 2012 7:11:06 GMT -8
i had a response to tell me just that so i am not holding out much hope. I guess H I must be out of favour with Jen then....  At least I know now. Was it the too busy response or all sold response. |
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Post by jB on Feb 13, 2012 7:59:26 GMT -8
I wouldn't be surprised if you received an email the day of or the day before. I have a suspicion that the twins work up all the way to the opening, then proceed on from there. There's still almost two weeks before the show opens. I have nothing in confirmation, but just have a gut feeling of sorts.
It still doesn't make it right for not sending a reply stating this...but to make you feel better, I think we are all on the same boat.
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Post by volvic on Feb 13, 2012 9:11:36 GMT -8
i was just told that i would receive more info as and when she gets it, and yes the gallery is inundated with requests and also managing the space for the twins so it will be quite crazy in there right now.
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Post by zippy on Feb 13, 2012 11:08:11 GMT -8
Looking forward to seeing pics of the show and can I ask all who attend to take their camera with!
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Post by jB on Feb 13, 2012 11:11:07 GMT -8
Looking forward to seeing pics of the show and can I ask all who attend to take their camera with! I'm sure there will be plenty of folks taking photos for this one. |
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Post by harveyn on Feb 13, 2012 13:48:46 GMT -8
To be fair I did get a response from Jen this evening and an apology for the delay. As Henry described they have been inundated so all good this end now. Really excited about seeing the shots from the show.
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Post by epicfai on Feb 15, 2012 16:06:27 GMT -8
i bet this guy has seen the preview.   |
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Post by saL on Feb 16, 2012 1:54:20 GMT -8
i bet this guy has seen the preview. yup, in person  ... must say I also heard back from Jen (same info as Harveyn), so I thought it would be fair to let everyone know about it.. |
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At least I know now. Was it the too busy response or all sold response.
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