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Post by drevil on Apr 25, 2013 5:50:31 GMT -8
Flippers are going to have a hard time flipping these. Seems priced at about a reasonable market price already. Even without the coming price bump(s). Pass.
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Post by ricosg11 on Apr 25, 2013 5:52:14 GMT -8
in the interview posted on paulson's site Tauba mentions that registration has a randomness to it due to the fine mesh used in the process: www.paulsonbottpress.com/about/oktp/oktp_auerbach2.pdf"Absolutely. Some of the patterns were not compelling, and some were just ugly. And another feature of this particular mesh is that the size of the period is very small. You know, its maybe two millimeters. So registration and paper stretch make every print unique. The paper stretches a millimeter which makes a pretty big difference in how these tiny marks align with each other." While i would not call them unique, this is what the dude above is referring to. |
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Post by turnsintoashes on Apr 25, 2013 6:06:17 GMT -8
in the interview posted on paulson's site Tauba mentions that registration has a randomness to it due to the fine mesh used in the process: www.paulsonbottpress.com/about/oktp/oktp_auerbach2.pdf"Absolutely. Some of the patterns were not compelling, and some were just ugly. And another feature of this particular mesh is that the size of the period is very small. You know, its maybe two millimeters. So registration and paper stretch make every print unique. The paper stretches a millimeter which makes a pretty big difference in how these tiny marks align with each other." While i would not call them unique, this is what the dude above is referring to. yes, that's what i was referring to. |
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Post by outerborough on Apr 25, 2013 7:11:25 GMT -8
cool prints. interesting that she's doing moire patterns. dan walsh, who's also with paula cooper, has a great plastic mesh book that creates moire patterns when the pages are turned:  |
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Post by mose on Apr 25, 2013 7:26:33 GMT -8
I LOVE that book. It is fantastic and I spent a lot of time with it at MoMA. Almost bought a copy last year, just before I swore off ever buying artist's books again. I believe they are $1500.
Great to see Walsh mentioned on here as well. Very good artist. His latest Paula Cooper show, I believe it was last year, was very thought-provoking and enjoyable.
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Post by afr1ka on Apr 25, 2013 7:49:14 GMT -8
cool prints. interesting that she's doing moire patterns. dan walsh, who's also with paula cooper, has a great plastic mesh book that creates moire patterns when the pages are turned: Very cool |
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Post by wimbledongreen on Apr 25, 2013 11:22:46 GMT -8
Great new series of prints. They are a nice evolution of the fold series but have their own process which is beautiful. I really appreciate prints where the artist can use techniques unique to printmaking to make the edition. In this case it isn't even a traditional technique like etching but sort of Tauba's own "invention" of the mesh materials and layering. It isn't just a reproduction of an existing painting but a piece that came into creation because or with the help of the tools available in the medium. I especially like the more colorful pieces in the series but if you can afford the whole set I have a feeling that is going to look amazing when displayed together. From my experience with last year's release you really can't get the full experience until you see these in person but I have a feeling by the time I can see these live the prices will have gone up quite a bit. A bit of a dilema but I really want one of these!  |
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Post by ricosg11 on Apr 25, 2013 12:42:23 GMT -8
Great new series of prints. They are a nice evolution of the fold series but have their own process which is beautiful. I really appreciate prints where the artist can use techniques unique to printmaking to make the edition. In this case it isn't even a traditional technique like etching but sort of Tauba's own "invention" of the mesh materials and layering. It isn't just a reproduction of an existing painting but a piece that came into creation because or with the help of the tools available in the medium. I especially like the more colorful pieces in the series but if you can afford the whole set I have a feeling that is going to look amazing when displayed together. From my experience with last year's release you really can't get the full experience until you see these in person but I have a feeling by the time I can see these live the prices will have gone up quite a bit. A bit of a dilema but I really want one of these! I agree one million percent. It's ironic, I had the exact same conversation yesterday with someone. |
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Post by prpr on Apr 25, 2013 12:55:47 GMT -8
also excited by this print release. it is interesting to compare the cross-room view  to the individual images. the shape in the second on the left, for example, does not appear (to me) when looking at the detail shot of the same work  (i can find it once i know it is there, but i didn't recognize this work in the line up) It isn't just a reproduction of an existing painting but a piece that came into creation because or with the help of the tools available in the medium. agreed! these are the primary artworks (and not mere copies of original paintings, as sometimes happens when painters make prints). she is creating the moire with each print - e.g., each print has a step one, with one grid print, and a step two, with the second grid print on top, and the moire happens from the interference introduced in this second step (looking at each plate or a single layer print would not signal what the final piece will look like). it seems like she could have scanned the test moire prints she liked and created plates with the end image (maybe separating colors). or, she could have printed them digitially at that stage. instead, she chose to follow the process of creating the moire image on each of the prints. as noted, this introduces the possibility of small variations across the edition (as noted by Tauba in the oktp pdf: "another feature of this particular mesh is that the size of the period is very small. You know, its maybe two millimeters. So registration and paper stretch make every print unique. The paper stretches a millimeter which makes a pretty big difference in how these tiny marks align with each other"). i'd love to see the full set in person as i am sure there is more to it than meets the screen. & thanks for the tip on the Dan Walsh book outerborough dan walsh, who's also with paula cooper, has a great plastic mesh book that creates moire patterns when the pages are turned: i would love to see that in person as well - it sounds like it might hold more possibilities, with the moire shifting as you flip through the book - although it is difficult to compete with fully realized wallworks. |
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Post by harveyn on Apr 25, 2013 14:07:06 GMT -8
I was also intrigued about the unique element of each print within each edition of 40 caused by the process and the feedback I got was.
Whilst they are all handmade, with nuances each edition is consistent throughout. Each edition is created using the exact same plates and colors. The reference to the slight nuance is found in every one of her handmade editions. These are not, “unique” pieces.
Stunning all the same and I am still very tempted.
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Post by dash on Apr 26, 2013 9:10:35 GMT -8
I am going to see the proofs in person today. I know Paulson struggled to photograph these pieces and I expect the movement and luminosity to be much more spectacular in person. The purple version has already gone up in price and I expect the others to follow suit quickly.
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Post by RBK on Apr 26, 2013 9:25:27 GMT -8
Wise pricing by Paulson Bott. Will keep out the riff raff / people buying for the wrong reasons ;D
I think printing houses gradually raising the price as an edition sells is the right way to do it.
Beautiful prints! I'm sure this photos don't even come close to doing them justice.
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Post by svenman on Apr 26, 2013 10:43:19 GMT -8
has anyone here bought one?
i'm really tempted as i think they are quite wonderful, but not sure if i can stretch to this amount for an edition...
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Post by chaserawr on Apr 26, 2013 12:24:58 GMT -8
As my love for Tauba grows, I still like this edition better  |
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Post by dotdot on Apr 26, 2013 13:10:18 GMT -8
has anyone here bought one? i'm really tempted as i think they are quite wonderful, but not sure if i can stretch to this amount for an edition... Y I did... .. |
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Post by wimbledongreen on Apr 26, 2013 13:14:56 GMT -8
Wise pricing by Paulson Bott. Will keep out the riff raff / people buying for the wrong reasons ;D I think printing houses gradually raising the price as an edition sells is the right way to do it. Beautiful prints! I'm sure this photos don't even come close to doing them justice. I agree the price at $4500 will keep the "riff raff / people buying for the wong reasons" out. I don't agree tiered pricing is the right way to do it. I've posted before so won't get into it in-depth again. But flawed system imo. And I agree the photos probably "don't even come close to doing them justice." My suggestion to Paulson is debut the print release around the fall/winter at the time of the NY and LA print fairs. People can get a better look, many photos will be taken, in-person reviews will hit the internet and forums, so more information for people to make a decision. And since the pricing WON'T be tiered everyone can buy at the same price. |
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Post by prpr on Apr 26, 2013 14:09:04 GMT -8
has anyone here bought one? i'm really tempted as i think they are quite wonderful, but not sure if i can stretch to this amount for an edition... Y I did..... me too. wish i could get multiples - would love to get all 6 - but just one given price constraints. key for me is (1) original work (not reproduction of other work); (2) visually compelling; (3) interesting process & (4) fits with Tauba's most desirable works (e.g., folds, crumples, creases). plus, i trust Tauba's instincts, having followed her work for 5+ years, and expect that these will be even better in person. in terms of the pricing, her other prints are all now $5k-$11k and mostly sold out. her most desirable paintings now seem to go for $290k for smaller work (e.g., small fold sold at auction). so the price, while higher than before, seems reasonable, particularly for an artist with such demonstrated demand. this is the closest many of us will get to owning/living with a fold painting. at the same time, these are not fold junior reproductions - mesh/moire is its own investigation, an independent series that will function by its own rules (with image at distance collapsing on approach into textured pattern is my best guess), have its own fans. ultimately, i trust retail with Tauba (and all artists i would buy work from). i am not in this for a quick profit and view all art acquisitions as long term bets - in the 5-20 year time frame - recognizing that some will mature and be sold for living expenses as the need arises and opportunity presents, and others i will just continue to live with and enjoy.
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Post by WillNyc on Apr 26, 2013 20:52:21 GMT -8
has anyone here bought one? i'm really tempted as i think they are quite wonderful, but not sure if i can stretch to this amount for an edition... I did as well  |
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Post by drevil on Apr 26, 2013 20:58:00 GMT -8
me too. wish i could get multiples - would love to get all 6 - but just one given price constraints. key for me is (1) original work (not reproduction of other work); (2) visually compelling; (3) interesting process & (4) fits with Tauba's most desirable works (e.g., folds, crumples, creases). plus, i trust Tauba's instincts, having followed her work for 5+ years, and expect that these will be even better in person. in terms of the pricing, her other prints are all now $5k-$11k and mostly sold out. her most desirable paintings now seem to go for $290k for smaller work (e.g., small fold sold at auction). so the price, while higher than before, seems reasonable, particularly for an artist with such demonstrated demand. this is the closest many of us will get to owning/living with a fold painting. at the same time, these are not fold junior reproductions - mesh/moire is its own investigation, an independent series that will function by its own rules (with image at distance collapsing on approach into textured pattern is my best guess), have its own fans. ultimately, i trust retail with Tauba (and all artists i would buy work from). i am not in this for a quick profit and view all art acquisitions as long term bets - in the 5-20 year time frame - recognizing that some will mature and be sold for living expenses as the need arises and opportunity presents, and others i will just continue to live with and enjoy. I disagree. Moire is an old concept and she has not really added anything to the old ideas or images here. I'm not sure why these should be considered as being in the same league as some of her more original ideas. These may look pretty but I don't see much that is interesting or novel here. Decorative art. IMO. |
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Post by svenman on Apr 26, 2013 23:43:43 GMT -8
some interesting perspectives in this thread about these new editions.
from the images, i feel that these are her strongest editions yet. personally i like them much more than than the plate distortion series.
i slept on it and ending up getting one. most expensive 'print' i've ever bought so i had to take a moment. nice not to have to rush into the decision though...
hope it lives up to expectations when i see it!
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Post by paulypaul on Apr 27, 2013 0:05:21 GMT -8
I'm so glad I don't like Tauba's work because I hate tiered pricing and it would really rub me up the wrong way. Also, I'm not sure what "riff raff" would pay $4,000 for a multiple...
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Post by afr1ka on Apr 27, 2013 4:12:13 GMT -8
These are great but not close to her strongest. The static series is far superior imo.
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Post by avert on Apr 27, 2013 21:21:57 GMT -8
50¢ (cash money) to the first user to post a photo of her new work, Gnomon/Wave.
Curious to see it. It sounds interesting.
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Post by outerborough on Apr 28, 2013 4:44:07 GMT -8
 Concept sketch for Gnomon/Wave Fulgurite I.I (2013). Courtesy of the artist. 50¢ (cash money) to the first user to post a photo if her new work, Gnomon/Wave. Curious to see it. It sounds interesting. |
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Post by hellosir on Apr 29, 2013 8:49:44 GMT -8
Thanks Urbanite for the Google bait ;D Now more info Tauba Auerbach, Gnomon/Wave Fulgurite I.I, 2013 On view: May 2 - September 1, 2013 The Glass House is pleased to debut New York-based artist Tauba Auerbach’s Gnomon/Wave Fulgurite I.I, a sculpture made for Night (1947 - 2015), a “sculpture-in-residence” series presented on the Mies van der Rohe glass coffee table inside the Glass House. Auerbach’s first sand sculpture, Gnomon/Wave Fulgurite I.I evokes a solid wave of light composed of tiny particles. The physical form of the work resembles that of a gnomon, the vertical shadow casting part of a sundial. Throughout the day, Gnomon/Wave Fulgurite I.I will cast a moving shadow along and through the glass table where it rests. It will be on view until early September 2013. philipjohnsonglasshouse.org/visit/exhibitions/night/ |
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