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Post by prpr on May 16, 2013 17:09:27 GMT -8
wow! that is a solid result for her woven canvas work (and good fundraising for the whitney). my guess is a quality fold painting of comparable size would sell closer to 2x. on another note, [2,3] is up to $650 now ( printedmatter.org/catalogue/moreinfo.cfm?title_id=90374) - which still seems very reasonable. Do you have any relationship with Auerbach or Printed Matter? i'm a fan of Tauba and Printed Matter is the clearest way i can describe my relationship with both parties. i want them both to succeed so there is a bias - but i think it is the kind of bias inherent in almost all posts. you've posted that you don't like Tauba's work so i guess that is another kind of bias (and maybe the reason my positive posts cause you to question my relationships). i've posted a few times here that [2,3] is still available because i believe it is a great work (on view at, and owned by, NYMOMA, for example) and it is still relatively accessible/affordable. i wasn't reading/posting on this board back when the fold print was first offered by printed matter for $150 but i did pepper my friends with tips on that work over the course of a year as i saw that it was still available (and i still have my fold print and [2,3] - i don't post here to promote work so that i can flip it). |
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Post by paulypaul on May 16, 2013 22:17:05 GMT -8
Do you have any relationship with Auerbach or Printed Matter? i'm a fan of Tauba and Printed Matter is the clearest way i can describe my relationship with both parties. i want them both to succeed so there is a bias - but i think it is the kind of bias inherent in almost all posts. you've posted that you don't like Tauba's work so i guess that is another kind of bias (and maybe the reason my positive posts cause you to question my relationships). i've posted a few times here that [2,3] is still available because i believe it is a great work (on view at, and owned by, NYMOMA, for example) and it is still relatively accessible/affordable. i wasn't reading/posting on this board back when the fold print was first offered by printed matter for $150 but i did pepper my friends with tips on that work over the course of a year as i saw that it was still available (and i still have my fold print and [2,3] - i don't post here to promote work so that i can flip it). Fair enough. It's just hat 50 of your 63 posts in 2 years have been about Auerbach and Printed Matter. That made me nervous of your motive... |
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Post by avert on May 16, 2013 22:43:49 GMT -8
i'm a fan of Tauba and Printed Matter is the clearest way i can describe my relationship with both parties. i want them both to succeed so there is a bias - but i think it is the kind of bias inherent in almost all posts. you've posted that you don't like Tauba's work so i guess that is another kind of bias (and maybe the reason my positive posts cause you to question my relationships). i've posted a few times here that [2,3] is still available because i believe it is a great work (on view at, and owned by, NYMOMA, for example) and it is still relatively accessible/affordable. i wasn't reading/posting on this board back when the fold print was first offered by printed matter for $150 but i did pepper my friends with tips on that work over the course of a year as i saw that it was still available (and i still have my fold print and [2,3] - i don't post here to promote work so that i can flip it). Fair enough. It's just hat 50 of your 63 posts in 2 years have been about Auerbach and Printed Matter. That made me nervous of your motive... heaven forbid we have a forum member that only comments on a couple of art threads. suspicion? i say we call the authorities!! prpr...you should comment in the luke chueh thread just to throw them off your scent.  ps- for the record, i like the [2,3] book also. and yes, i own it. amongst other auerbach works. |
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Post by paulypaul on May 16, 2013 23:46:55 GMT -8
Don't be a dick, avert. I found it unusual for someone so interested in Auerbach's work to restrain from commenting on other peoples work, other artists. Don't you? Maybe it simply demonstrates a single mindedness I don't possess. Entirely unrelated, this site is interesting prpr.net/pr-services/social-media-marketing/Maybe I'm a paranoid fool. That doesn't mean they aren't out to get you... (smiley winky face thing) |
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Post by ksn on May 17, 2013 1:38:32 GMT -8
Saw this piece today, listed at $18,000.  There was also a framed Plate Distortion (grey) print for $7,000. |
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Post by prpr on May 17, 2013 11:05:04 GMT -8
Don't be a dick, avert. I found it unusual for someone so interested in Auerbach's work to restrain from commenting on other peoples work, other artists. Don't you? Maybe it simply demonstrates a single mindedness I don't possess. Entirely unrelated, this site is interesting prpr.net/pr-services/social-media-marketing/Maybe I'm a paranoid fool. That doesn't mean they aren't out to get you... (smiley winky face thing) yes - the majority of my posts (and interests on this board) are re Tauba Auerbach (not printed matter - i am a fan but they only show up in connection with Tauba). i use this board as a place to learn and share info re Tauba and so it is a place i keep track of some things, a place i share information, a place i look for information (like this post artchival.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=contemporary&thread=4046&page=56#72192 - which has new information for me - never seen a Tauba like that, which makes me curious - when was it made, what was the process, anything not immediately apparent from the photo?) the rests of my posts are mainly about Barry McGee (and i am just a fan there too). also, i have no relation to prpr.net, pr or social media marketing. i'm with avert - i find this inquiry a bit odd - particularly since i am just sharing info and not seeking to sell. should i be honored to have garnered such an investigation (counting my posts by topic, searching the web for prpr - i'm not prpr.rice.edu either)? or that you find my single-minded focus on an anonymous internet art board beyond your capacity? in any event, i have nothing to add on other threads (and am not interested in hating on work i do not like). so back to this thread, and Tauba, thanks for posting the new work KSN, if you have any more info on this, i am curious. Saw this piece today, listed at $18,000. is it related to this? www.exploratorium.edu/arts/artists/tauba_auerbach |
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Post by dash on May 17, 2013 11:19:53 GMT -8
Sometimes the back and forth on this site makes me laugh out loud. I have been following The Artchival for years, but only joined very recently. Coincidently I am most excited about the Tauba and McGee threads. However, I highly value all the information and knowledge posted about so many exciting artists. Thanks for the exploratorium link. I used to love the giant pen pendulum drawing device as a child, does anyone know if it was brought to the new location? I suppose I need to check for myself.
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Post by guymo on May 17, 2013 12:04:09 GMT -8
The exploratorium's text is excellent: "Auerbach created a large-scale, multi-geared, human-powered drawing machine."
Definitely not a GIANT SPIROGRAPH (TM). No, definitely not that.
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Post by afroken on May 17, 2013 13:43:23 GMT -8
That drawing has been doing the rounds for a while. It was $10,000 only about 3 or 4 months ago, and very negotiable. It's shit but someone will buy it, even at that price.
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Post by avert on May 17, 2013 17:17:40 GMT -8
Fair enough. It's just hat 50 of your 63 posts in 2 years have been about Auerbach and Printed Matter. That made me nervous of your motive... heaven forbid we have a forum member that only comments on a couple of art threads. suspicion? i say we call the authorities!! prpr...you should comment in the luke chueh thread just to throw them off your scent. ps- for the record, i like the [2,3] book also. and yes, i own it. amongst other auerbach works. i'd like to thank the forum members that felt my comment (see the above), as snarky as it was, warranted 2 smites. the whole "exalt | smite" system is amazing. i guess i'm not "friendly" enough to keep myself in the positive numbers. please continue to smite me. i'm the worst. such a bad person. ______ ---> back to actual tauba info....... i went and checked out that tauba auerbach "large-scale, multi-geared, human-powered drawing machine" several years ago when it was on display at the old exploratorium location. it was fun. i took two of my "collaborative" works home, and have them rolled up somewhere. does anyone know if the tauba machine is on display at the now opened new exploratorium location? i hope it is. i should go check it out again. |
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Post by ksn on May 20, 2013 4:27:21 GMT -8
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Post by wimbledongreen on May 20, 2013 16:09:32 GMT -8
I'm so glad I don't like Tauba's work because I hate tiered pricing and it would really rub me up the wrong way. Also, I'm not sure what "riff raff" would pay $4,000 for a multiple... I think it's pretty clear this person doesn't like Tauba's work. |
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Post by prpr on May 20, 2013 23:57:40 GMT -8
thanks for shooting/posting these detail shots - this work in particular reminds me of the untitled/fold screenprint up close - i think it is the color but also the way the two layers overlap so the white space is white and yellow. |
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 6, 2013 19:01:54 GMT -8
Stab / Ghost threestarbooks.com/en/tauba-auerbach-stab-ghost/Tauba Auerbach Stab / Ghost, 2013 Edition of 10 copies, plus three artist proofs and three copies hors commerce Format: 30 x 40 cm Lexan pages, silkscreened. Japanese binding. A stack of clear plastic sheets are bound (stab binding) with four different colored plastic threads. The entire surface of sheets #1 and #100 are printed with the repetition of the binding pattern while sheets #2 through #99 are printed with colored dots, which when illuminated upon a light box table simulates the effect of the stab binding. The book produces a “ghost” of the actual binding pattern recreated throughout the sheets and is displayed upon a custom designed light box table. |
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Post by mose on Jun 7, 2013 4:19:50 GMT -8
Looks expensive, but interesting. Artist books like this, as a genre, fascinate me. Things like the Ali book with Koons, Helmut Newton's 'Sumo'(the first book I remember seeing that presented as a sculpture), Auerbach's editions from a few years ago, Dan Walsh's fantastic explorations of the medium, Sam Falls' work with Gottlund Verlag, John Armleder's work with Three Star Books, etc.
They are straight-up artworks, but always seem to be red-headed stepchildren in the way collectors and the market treat them. I guess their failure to be easily-defined, wall-hanging works put them in the 'lesser' category. Perhaps they are not 'typical' of the artists involved. Not to criticize, as I find myself viewing them the same way. I've lusted after, and acquired, several similar books through the years only to later sell them off because they didn't continue to satisfy.
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 7, 2013 8:52:35 GMT -8
They are straight-up artworks, but always seem to be red-headed stepchildren in the way collectors and the market treat them. I can relate to your thoughts. Seems a number of collectors share this view, hence the below excerpt taken from the site work description: 'In fact, in the world of artist’s books, there is a certain disdain for the elaborately handmade bookwork. Artists who invest too much in the choice of paper or type of print --- let alone binding, or elements such as Pop-ups -- are considered outside the critical discourse.' |
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Post by prpr on Jun 9, 2013 13:19:19 GMT -8
thanks for sharing! from the website, it looks like it operates somewhat like her float book, only with more complicated layering (or weaves). also looks like they'll have them at art baseli think Tauba's embrace of the book as object, her disruption of the book as a linear narrative, and her continuing evolution with these will make these books as desirable as her wall work (which took time, and critical praise, before it was embraced). they are magical objects - particularly the rgb colorspace atlas, but really all of them. & unlike many other artists, Tauba has made this a clear stream in the body of her work. i'm hoping for a retrospective show with her book work at some point so that i can see them all together, how they interact/speak, what i learn from seeing her spectrum, and i think something like that will be a moment when these really cross over. in other news, another fold is coming up for auction at christies and highlighted in the art press. not sure how it reads in person (from the web i would rate it a middling fold). |
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 10, 2013 5:06:45 GMT -8
Too kind, thank you. Surprised no-one else had already posted it. Thought I would add the pricing on these was around the 25k+ USD mark. |
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Post by afr1ka on Jun 11, 2013 5:33:41 GMT -8
 www.phillips.com/detail/TAUBA-AUERBACH/UK010413/3up for auction at Phillips Contemporary Art Evening Sale in London on 6/27 Fold XV acrylic on canvas 152.4 x 121.9 cm. (60 x 48 in.) Signed, titled and dated 'UNTITLED (FOLD) XV TAUBA AUERBACH 2010' on the overlap. Estimate £200,000 - 300,000 |
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Post by prpr on Jun 18, 2013 0:32:41 GMT -8
in other news, another fold is coming up for auction at christies and highlighted in the art press. not sure how it reads in person (from the web i would rate it a middling fold). Christie's posted a short video discussion of this work with a number of detail shots that are the best representation i've seen to date of the allure of this work as it breaks down into somewhat random appearing color specks up close and resolves to folds further back. it doesn't have the visual allure, for me, of the folds highlighted by beautiful decay, but looks like it would be awesome in person (and fit better into more minimalist environments).
for folks like me who do not follow all the threads here, i found this list of most significant painters to emerge since 2000 in the Sterling Ruby thread. |
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Post by hellosir on Jun 18, 2013 13:34:10 GMT -8
This latest auction, in my opinion, could be one of the best examples of her technique and absolute "awesome" factor when viewing. Seeing this live it has a really fantastic blend like a split fountain. The blend along with the folds are very delicate and soothing. I remember seeing this piece and more or less dismissing it when compared to other more contrasting blends, a deep blue/gold blend or a red/white. The contrast in colors make the folds in other paintings much more distinct and gives more of a "how did she do that?" response, yet over time I found these much more intriguing as they just seem to be more fragile. The smaller wrinkles make it easier to inspect more of the painting rather than, boom that's incredible next.
If only it could put a roof over my head, it would be mine! Obviously a fan of this one and really think this could go one of two ways, slip by as a meh piece or could go through the roof.
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Post by harveyn on Jun 26, 2013 6:22:06 GMT -8
Serious money...... £505k
Christies
Sale 1135
Post-War and Contemporary Art Day Auction
26 June 2013
London, King Street
Tauba Auerbach (B. 1981)
Untitled (Fold)
acrylic on canvas
46 x 38in. (116.8 x 96.5cm.)
Painted in 2010
Hammer Price £420k
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Post by dotdot on Jun 26, 2013 6:36:00 GMT -8
i think that marks the turning of another corner.
at present I'm not sure what to think..
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Post by phearloathing on Jun 26, 2013 11:29:43 GMT -8
Wow that is a hefty hammer price. Definitely some serious money....
On another note, anyone else get their MESH/MOIRE print? Very happy to have finally added a Tauba to the collection.
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Post by ricosg11 on Jun 26, 2013 14:12:33 GMT -8
so happy i bought one of the fold paintings when i had the chance... Oh right...
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