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Post by mose on Nov 11, 2013 16:12:53 GMT -8
hammers at $320k.
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Post by afr1ka on Nov 11, 2013 16:41:35 GMT -8
I am not a big fan of his but I went and saw this piece in person and it was really really nice. He should go more in this direction and lay off the rain paintings (which are boring and unoriginal imo). I am not surprised it went this high based on the reactions from people who were viewing it. |
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Post by artcubed on Nov 11, 2013 17:05:26 GMT -8
I am not surprised it went this high based on the reactions from people who were viewing it. Can anyone explain this price; I must admit I thought his work sold at retail for c.$10k? I'm interested to hear what is driving his secondary market so high...? |
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Post by mose on Nov 11, 2013 17:11:14 GMT -8
I am not a big fan of his but I went and saw this piece in person and it was really really nice. He should go more in this direction and lay off the rain paintings (which are boring and unoriginal imo). I am not surprised it went this high based on the reactions from people who were viewing it. Completely agree. Went on saw it on Saturday and it was impressive, drawing crowds that lingered much longer than they did at any other work. People lost in memory. I pretty much went into Phillips wanting to hate it. I came out thinking it was one of the most thoughtful pieces I saw all weekend. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 17:05:48 GMT -8
I am not surprised it went this high based on the reactions from people who were viewing it. Can anyone explain this price; I must admit I thought his work sold at retail for c.$10k? I'm interested to hear what is driving his secondary market so high...? Duh. Blending a laidback West Coast attitude with Brooklyn grit, Lucien Smith has reinvigorated downtown cool with a renewed allegiance to craft and skill. While Smith’s work is full of a laconic distance from his subjects, in it is manifest an earnest engagement with the history of painting. Smith is best known for paintings that invade the border between representation and abstraction and in the current lot we find an important lodestar in the artist’s aesthetic, as well as psychological, constellation. Hobbes, The Rain Man, and My Friend Barney / Under the Sycamore Tree, 2011, is a striking, large-scale painting lushly depicting a scene from the second Winnie-the-Pooh animated Disney film. However the painting is in its own way a redacted form of this animated classic as Smith has removed the character of Piglet who, in the filmed version, was the only figure in the scene. This characterless background turns the animated children’s fable into a classical landscape painting, focusing on the natural form of the tree and the wind, and harkening specifically back to Japanese folding screens, Monet’s Weeping Willow, and perhaps most closely, Courbet’s Oak Trees, 1854. In the present lot, we have the artist playing back and forth between fiction and truth; the very title itself steers the viewer and artist back towards seemingly slight childhood charms, the comic novels of Pooh, as well as the comic strips of Calvin and Hobbes that are in-and-of themselves imbued with nostalgia as well as important Eastern and Western philosophy. Reflecting his upbringing as an only child, Smith investigates places of intellectual and emotional escape, as well as the schema of imaginary friends. In the current lot the artist manages to locate where these obsessions overlap; in the magical space below the blowing tree, where Pooh and his friends search for meaning in the absurd, is where Smith has erased the friend closest to Pooh who may or may not exist. He has removed Pooh’s, and perhaps his own, id. |
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Post by alexart on Nov 13, 2013 8:38:48 GMT -8
I think's it's more usefull to look who was the underbider and who bought the work, namely De Purry and Alberto Mugrabi to have a better picture... and to understand how you can achieve those prices
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Post by mose on Nov 14, 2013 12:10:07 GMT -8
Sotheby's day sale session 2, Lucien Smith hammers at $80k for a 24"x18" rain painting.
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Post by afr1ka on Nov 14, 2013 12:15:28 GMT -8
Sotheby's day sale session 2, Lucien Smith hammers at $80k for a 24"x18" rain painting. Absolutely ridiculous... I saw it in person and it was very plain and boring. Manipulation at its finest. |
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Post by volvic on Nov 14, 2013 12:42:59 GMT -8
I wouldn't be so sure, these have been knocking about on the secondary market for 40-50k for the last couple of months so 80k isn't that much of a jump for a public auction.
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Post by bluesteel on Nov 14, 2013 16:21:21 GMT -8
There are definitely people who have a vested interest. So scary for such a young artist. A lot of pressure to live up to these new standards. Both at auction and in his work.
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Post by simococo on Nov 14, 2013 21:48:36 GMT -8
Lucien and Oscar seem be "chosen"
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Post by mose on Nov 15, 2013 5:08:09 GMT -8
Definitely. And throughout art history, there have been chosen. Some fail miserably, some go cold for a while before re-igniting, and some run with it.
I do think the current generation of artists, raised with the internet, are going to be an amazing group overall. It's a really exciting time.
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Post by artcubed on Nov 15, 2013 8:31:17 GMT -8
I would agree with the last two posts; there are some very talented emerging artists coming through at the moment and I can't see any other reason why Lucien Smith and Oscar Murillo should be ahead of them at this stage in their career.
This does seem to be a case of both being the chosen ones, with some clear price manipulation going on. For example, I've no idea whether this is true, but I've heard that one of the Mugrabi's was both a seller and bidder on the two Lucien Smith works at auction this week! Call me a cynic but the 'Saatchi affect' and a 'sheep mentality' springs to mind!
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Post by artladval on Dec 12, 2013 10:27:15 GMT -8
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Post by drevil on Dec 12, 2013 21:59:50 GMT -8
"I was paying $2,700 for a studio with one bedroom." Too funny. Rocket scientist he is not.
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Post by onemandown72 on Dec 13, 2013 1:26:21 GMT -8
"I was paying $2,700 for a studio with one bedroom." Too funny. Rocket scientist he is not. Or maybe you're reading it wrong - He's using the word Studio as a generic reference to his workspace, as opposed to a real estate term. Either way nice to see you've garnered such a valuable insight into Lucien Smith's mindset from the article, bravo. |
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Post by artladval on Dec 30, 2013 10:26:04 GMT -8
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Post by sam.register on Jan 4, 2014 6:56:14 GMT -8
Looks like mall art?  |
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Post by wimbledongreen on Jan 4, 2014 15:21:34 GMT -8
Vincent Van Gogh came in at #5 on Artsy with Starry Night, is that one still available?
Also on Artsy Lucien Smith is Alberto Mugrabi's "artist to watch" pick for 2014.
Mugrabi aside, it would be nice to see an "accessible" 2014 artists to watch list where you can still obtain a piece of artwork easily either through the artist or one of their galleries.
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Post by turboencabulator on Jan 4, 2014 15:39:21 GMT -8
Vincent Van Gogh came in at #5 on Artsy with Starry Night, is that one still available? Also on Artsy Lucien Smith is Alberto Mugrabi's "artist to watch" pick for 2014. Mugrabi aside, it would be nice to see an "accessible" 2014 artists to watch list where you can still obtain a piece of artwork easily either through the artist or one of their galleries. Try Adam Ball wimbledongreenwww.adamballonline.com/Big things planned for him this year. He is my tip for 2014/15. |
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Post by mose on Jan 4, 2014 17:34:40 GMT -8
Vincent Van Gogh came in at #5 on Artsy with Starry Night, is that one still available? Also on Artsy Lucien Smith is Alberto Mugrabi's "artist to watch" pick for 2014. Mugrabi aside, it would be nice to see an "accessible" 2014 artists to watch list where you can still obtain a piece of artwork easily either through the artist or one of their galleries. Makes sense considering the rumor that Mugrabi was not only the buyer(confirmed) but also the seller of the big piece at the last Phillips. |
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Post by sam.register on Jan 5, 2014 8:21:52 GMT -8
Also on Artsy Lucien Smith is Alberto Mugrabi's "artist to watch" pick for 2014. Who cares? He's just some rich guy. |
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Post by drevil on Jan 11, 2014 21:52:18 GMT -8
Also on Artsy Lucien Smith is Alberto Mugrabi's "artist to watch" pick for 2014. Who cares? He's just some rich guy. Everyone that owned a Lucien before that sale cares. And Mugrabi cares too. Obviously. |
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Post by billysport on Jan 16, 2014 10:18:03 GMT -8
paddle8.com/work/lucien-smith/25509-blue
am I right in thinking this was the $10 poster? if so, madness!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 12:06:14 GMT -8
Who cares? He's just some rich guy. Everyone that owned a Lucien before that sale cares. And Mugrabi cares too. Obviously. Nobody buys art just because they like the work. |
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