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Post by outerborough on Mar 18, 2013 12:32:30 GMT -8
The edition size of [2,3] is large (1,000), but that's not the only reason that it is still available. I think a lot of people who hadn't previously known anything about conceptual art got interested in Auerbach with all the hype surrounding her fold paintings. Many aren't really trying to understand her work beyond the surface. And to them, [2,3] is just a "book," which doesn't fit into their hierarchy of art collecting (prints < works on paper < paintings). Personally, I think Auerbach's reconceptualized books are some of her most interesting works. But that's beside the point, because [2,3] isn't even a book. It's perhaps more apt to describe it as a sculpture, or a series of sculptures. Basically, what I'm saying is that expectations and difficulties in classifying the work probably play a big part in why [2,3] hasn't sold out yet. And if anyone likes Auerbach, but hasn't bought this because they don't collect books or they think that $550 is too expensive for a book, I suggest you reconsider. (ps. 100th post!) I believe they are still available due to the edition size being quite large.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 13, 2013 7:20:04 GMT -8
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Post by outerborough on Mar 10, 2013 18:05:44 GMT -8
totally agree, khoi.
i don't think there's much value (no pun intended) in asking whether a certain artist or artwork deserves a certain price tag, except in relation to other artists and artworks.
as for why i think auerbach has garnered so much attention... she is able to create conceptual art that is accessible and beautiful. her work has a balance that is not often found. for me, that's the core of it. but after that, the art market does its thing and lots of people jump on board because of the hype and money.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 9, 2013 17:19:22 GMT -8
Auerbach weave painting goes for $53,000 at Printed Matter benefit.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 7, 2013 8:40:47 GMT -8
Paulypaul, I'm not going to argue with you over whether this new Auberbach print is good art or not, but I will argue about whether it is art at all. You seem to have a problem with it being an "accident" or an "afterthought" of her other work. The residual paint on her studio floor may have been a byproduct, but the image itself isn't. She made the conscious choice to photograph her studio floor and to use that as an image. The work has the intentionality of any other work of photography (i.e., she saw something she was interested in and took a picture). To discount its being art is to discount photography as an art form. In addition, she made at least two transformational decisions in creating the print. First, she chose a section of her studio floor and isolated it as an image. Then, she decided to transform the image by changing the medium from photography to silkscreen. Basically, Auerbach's creative process was the same as or even more complicated than that of many postmodern and conceptual artists. (btw, even if the work were "accidental," it could still be art, but in my opinion, that's a different argument that doesn't apply here.) FWIW, I think it's almost the definitive Emperor's new clothes. It gives me heartburn just thinking about it. It's a picture of the floor, with overspray on it. A by product of a process. Essentially, the spall. I was speaking with a friend recently about the chap who did the stuff with the fire extinguishers and the custard pies. After a couple of hours and several beers I understood his position, to the point of being intrigued enough to consider getting a piece myself. This, this 'work', however, is an afterthought. Someone will probably point me in the direction of an artist whose whole oeuvre is waste, and that's fine but this is not art. It's an accident. It might be a visually pleasing accident (I don't think so, but some might). And I get the 'it's made by an artist, ergo it's art' argument, but counter that with the 'fuck off, how daft do you think I am' position.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 7, 2013 7:53:41 GMT -8
I'm taking the liberty of continuing this discussion in the Tauba Auerbach main thread.
Good luck on your sale.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 7, 2013 4:37:07 GMT -8
If you have access to and the money to afford other Auerbach paintings, then you have the option to consider something larger. But as availability for Auerbach originals is almost zero at this time, for most collectors, this auction is a rare opportunity. It's a fine piece that is representative of her current work, so I don't think size alone would be a factor. And as for the online bidding being a waste of time, they'll likely proxy bid at the live event on behalf of the Paddle 8 leader, possibly allowing additional bidding by phone. That's how it worked for me for a recent LA benefit that had a Paddle 8 auction. Thanks outerborough, do you think the size is an issue ? Being so small compared to the other Woven pieces in ther series.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 6, 2013 10:48:22 GMT -8
i've seen it in person. it's nice. subtle, given the white on white and small size.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 25, 2013 8:28:53 GMT -8
i understand your point, and totally agree that the paulson etchings are vastly superior, although i don't think the price difference would be as easy to overcome as you. and perhaps it's because i've seen it in person, but it totally feels like Auerbach to me. it's the colors, and also the concepts of chaos and investigation of techniques. personally, at around the same price, i'd take this one over the printed matter fold, but i'm not as big a fan of the folds as most people seem to be. Pretty sure I've seen prints for 5500-6k. Sorry if I misused "few". If someone has 3500 to spend they certainly can save a little and probably get to 6k to get to a worthwhile piece. To me I don't even see anything definitive of Tauba when I look at this print. Obviously, at least from what I've seen thus far, everyone who bought it did so with the intention of flipping it(more power to them). I was just saying that it makes sense to save up and get something better because the topo/fold and plate distortion prints are very nice.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 22, 2013 14:48:35 GMT -8
"few dollars" would be $3-3.5k these days. you called it. certainly not a surprise. I was just saying that its a healthy chunk of change for that particular print. I think you could do better adding a few dollars and getting one of the slice or plate distortion.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 21, 2013 16:55:35 GMT -8
well, it's sold. seller took an offer, but it seems that ebay doesn't show the final price anymore.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 21, 2013 13:22:30 GMT -8
wow, that's a lot of attrition! Although the edition size is a stated 120, several were damaged in shipping from my understanding. There may only be about 80 or so of these prints.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 21, 2013 7:57:46 GMT -8
yeah, that's about right.
i'd expect this print to sell for as much or more than the printed matter fold print, given the slightly smaller edition size and the more complex printing. so, seems like the one on ebay is priced about right.
bet it's gone within a day or two.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 12, 2013 11:47:35 GMT -8
Great transaction with katrin. Thanks!
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Post by outerborough on Feb 1, 2013 6:33:55 GMT -8
you're welcome sven.
i received my blalock edition, but have not "activated" it yet. need to find the right bottle and then figure out how i want to insert the print. but it's kinda cool that i'm already engaged in the process.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 31, 2013 6:59:27 GMT -8
OK. No problem. Good luck with your search.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 31, 2013 6:56:33 GMT -8
One last push to make some money for my brother. This thread will close Sunday. Anything that doesn't sell by then will return to the collection. Also, I have a bunch of small originals, prints and ephemera up on Ebay by the likes of Fafi, Herbert Baglione, Brendan Monroe, Andrew Schoultz, Shepard Fairey, Dain, Skewville, Richard Colman and others. Most starting at $10-$50. Please take a look: www.ebay.com/sch/djemar/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3692
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Post by outerborough on Jan 31, 2013 6:49:21 GMT -8
Check out my sales thread. I have a JJ drawing I'm letting go of.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 30, 2013 8:10:13 GMT -8
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Post by outerborough on Jan 29, 2013 9:05:55 GMT -8
I, for one, appreciate a negative post. There tends to be pressure on these forums to not say anything negative or even critical, which makes for boring discussion.
I think your criticism in both cases is valid. Are the works her most original? No way. But she does them well, and with her style, which makes them interesting to me.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 29, 2013 7:52:15 GMT -8
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Post by outerborough on Jan 29, 2013 6:49:08 GMT -8
yeah, love that piece too, but the estimate seems really aggressive. if someone gets it for low estimate of 30,000GBP, they'll be paying 37,250GBP after premium, which is nearly $60,000. that's kinda crazy for a mid-sized drawing.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 27, 2013 14:13:20 GMT -8
Need to raise a bit more money for my brother, so reducing prices on the remaining pieces.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 25, 2013 6:43:53 GMT -8
I really like this one as well. The colors and texture of it are great.
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Post by outerborough on Jan 24, 2013 8:50:53 GMT -8
perfect transaction with russcel. thanks.
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