poofer
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Post by poofer on Feb 21, 2013 14:57:48 GMT -8
aren't they going to replace the damaged ones? or are they just issuing refunds? Im really not sure. I was able to procure one of the prints through a friend and he was the one who told me about the issues with the prints. |
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 21, 2013 16:46:54 GMT -8
aren't they going to replace the damaged ones? or are they just issuing refunds? Im really not sure. I was able to procure one of the prints through a friend and he was the one who told me about the issues with the prints. cool. I was just curious. I did hear that there were some issues in transit. I'd imagine they would probably prefer to re-issue the prints rather than refund the money but who knows. Some artists would prefer not to do that. Maybe the people who received damaged ones will get AP's instead. to go back to the original poster, I think 3500 is a bit much for this thing but 700 is sure a bargain. |
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Post by outerborough on Feb 21, 2013 16:55:35 GMT -8
well, it's sold. seller took an offer, but it seems that ebay doesn't show the final price anymore.
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 21, 2013 17:44:18 GMT -8
you called it. certainly not a surprise. I was just saying that its a healthy chunk of change for that particular print. I think you could do better adding a few dollars and getting one of the slice or plate distortion.
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Post by WillNyc on Feb 21, 2013 18:35:04 GMT -8
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Post by outerborough on Feb 22, 2013 14:48:35 GMT -8
"few dollars" would be $3-3.5k these days. you called it. certainly not a surprise. I was just saying that its a healthy chunk of change for that particular print. I think you could do better adding a few dollars and getting one of the slice or plate distortion. |
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Post by avert on Feb 22, 2013 18:02:20 GMT -8
...i had that same "few dollars" thought. it's currently doubling the 3.5K.
and am i the only one that doesn't really like the photo of her floor screen print edition? it just doesn't do it for me.
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Post by rizza79 on Feb 22, 2013 19:08:58 GMT -8
Pretty sure I've seen prints for 5500-6k. Sorry if I misused "few". If someone has 3500 to spend they certainly can save a little and probably get to 6k to get to a worthwhile piece.
To me I don't even see anything definitive of Tauba when I look at this print. Obviously, at least from what I've seen thus far, everyone who bought it did so with the intention of flipping it(more power to them). I was just saying that it makes sense to save up and get something better because the topo/fold and plate distortion prints are very nice.
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Post by outerborough on Feb 25, 2013 8:28:53 GMT -8
i understand your point, and totally agree that the paulson etchings are vastly superior, although i don't think the price difference would be as easy to overcome as you. and perhaps it's because i've seen it in person, but it totally feels like Auerbach to me. it's the colors, and also the concepts of chaos and investigation of techniques. personally, at around the same price, i'd take this one over the printed matter fold, but i'm not as big a fan of the folds as most people seem to be. Pretty sure I've seen prints for 5500-6k. Sorry if I misused "few". If someone has 3500 to spend they certainly can save a little and probably get to 6k to get to a worthwhile piece. To me I don't even see anything definitive of Tauba when I look at this print. Obviously, at least from what I've seen thus far, everyone who bought it did so with the intention of flipping it(more power to them). I was just saying that it makes sense to save up and get something better because the topo/fold and plate distortion prints are very nice. |
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Post by waltercrunk on Feb 25, 2013 13:09:13 GMT -8
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Post by hre on Feb 25, 2013 13:23:00 GMT -8
What list do I need to get on to buy a print from Tauba. I don't seem to hear any news about prints. Any help would be great.
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Post by dotdot on Feb 26, 2013 12:44:23 GMT -8
What list do I need to get on to buy a print from Tauba. I don't seem to hear any news about prints. Any help would be great. i don't think such a list exists. as with everything - do a bit of research, contact a few galleries and print houses.. see what pops out - most folks are friendly to people who have a friendly demeanor. as for those recent prints... i never heard anything about them either or the ones before.. do i care ? not muchly - that's life. stay cool - keep your head .. and persevere.. and if you're in the uk drink the blackstuff... .. |
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Post by sleepboy on Feb 26, 2013 13:19:03 GMT -8
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Post by 80 on Feb 28, 2013 10:59:03 GMT -8
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Post by sport1 on Feb 28, 2013 11:46:00 GMT -8
I like this piece , doesnt have the same effect as the black and white woven canvas works and on the small size. 35 bids and $20,000 already Im guessing this ends alot closer to $50,000.
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Post by sport1 on Mar 6, 2013 10:34:26 GMT -8
Can I ask has anyone been to view the piece for sale with Paddle 8 ? Any views on this piece ?
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Post by outerborough on Mar 6, 2013 10:48:22 GMT -8
i've seen it in person. it's nice. subtle, given the white on white and small size.
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sport1
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Post by sport1 on Mar 6, 2013 11:15:57 GMT -8
Thanks outerborough, do you think the size is an issue ? Being so small compared to the other Woven pieces in ther series.
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Post by drevil on Mar 6, 2013 11:39:56 GMT -8
Seems like mostly a big waste of time to bid as the final bidding is at a live auction rather than online.
Or am I missing something here?
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Post by outerborough on Mar 7, 2013 4:37:07 GMT -8
If you have access to and the money to afford other Auerbach paintings, then you have the option to consider something larger. But as availability for Auerbach originals is almost zero at this time, for most collectors, this auction is a rare opportunity. It's a fine piece that is representative of her current work, so I don't think size alone would be a factor. And as for the online bidding being a waste of time, they'll likely proxy bid at the live event on behalf of the Paddle 8 leader, possibly allowing additional bidding by phone. That's how it worked for me for a recent LA benefit that had a Paddle 8 auction. Thanks outerborough, do you think the size is an issue ? Being so small compared to the other Woven pieces in ther series. |
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Post by outerborough on Mar 7, 2013 8:40:47 GMT -8
Paulypaul, I'm not going to argue with you over whether this new Auberbach print is good art or not, but I will argue about whether it is art at all. You seem to have a problem with it being an "accident" or an "afterthought" of her other work. The residual paint on her studio floor may have been a byproduct, but the image itself isn't. She made the conscious choice to photograph her studio floor and to use that as an image. The work has the intentionality of any other work of photography (i.e., she saw something she was interested in and took a picture). To discount its being art is to discount photography as an art form. In addition, she made at least two transformational decisions in creating the print. First, she chose a section of her studio floor and isolated it as an image. Then, she decided to transform the image by changing the medium from photography to silkscreen. Basically, Auerbach's creative process was the same as or even more complicated than that of many postmodern and conceptual artists. (btw, even if the work were "accidental," it could still be art, but in my opinion, that's a different argument that doesn't apply here.) FWIW, I think it's almost the definitive Emperor's new clothes. It gives me heartburn just thinking about it. It's a picture of the floor, with overspray on it. A by product of a process. Essentially, the spall. I was speaking with a friend recently about the chap who did the stuff with the fire extinguishers and the custard pies. After a couple of hours and several beers I understood his position, to the point of being intrigued enough to consider getting a piece myself. This, this 'work', however, is an afterthought. Someone will probably point me in the direction of an artist whose whole oeuvre is waste, and that's fine but this is not art. It's an accident. It might be a visually pleasing accident (I don't think so, but some might). And I get the 'it's made by an artist, ergo it's art' argument, but counter that with the 'fuck off, how daft do you think I am' position. |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2013 8:36:35 GMT -8
You make some interesting points. When I am at a proper keyboard, I will respond.
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Post by artladval on Mar 8, 2013 11:34:14 GMT -8
outerborough makes some good points.
I think the fact that many people felt that this print was only offered to a select in-the-know few and not publicly to all exacerbates the perceived context of the image. It adds to the stereotype of contemporary art's exclusiveness and heightens insecurity about the artistic merits of the picture itself.
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Post by outerborough on Mar 9, 2013 17:19:22 GMT -8
Auerbach weave painting goes for $53,000 at Printed Matter benefit.
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Post by drevil on Mar 9, 2013 19:18:23 GMT -8
I just don't understand why her work commands the prices it does at this point in her career. Supply, demand and hype I guess.
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